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Started by VladTepes, Thursday, 09 February 2017, 01:02 PM

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VladTepes

Looking at the Power Commander site, and selecting our bike, only the PCIII-USB is listed.

http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/powercommander.aspx?mk=21&mdl=182&yr=1333

Does the PC-V not offer any advantages for the 14 ?
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seth

with a pcv
you can add an auto tuner and data logging kit so it can self map as you use it

no more trips to the dyno at 300 miles abd £160 a time

I'm going to be fitting a 1250 bandit pcv with lamder sensor .

other have done this and will have liads more info than me
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

Sethbot Postwhore

Proteous

I think the main reason for not listing the 14 is due to the 14s lack of lamder/O2 sensor.. So, in the eyes of a lamen, the compatability isnt there.. However its actualy quite straight forward and easy process to add one to the 14. So compatability is 100% there. Simples..
So if i do stuff all all day and noone sees me do it.. Am i still a lazy git?

Blubber

The 14 was out of production when the PCV was introduced, I think that might be the reason wij the 14 isnt listed anymore. - could have made a wrong assumption though.


A lambda sensor is placed very quickly and only needed for the autotune function / module btw.

Wreck-it Richard - one of the unDutchables

Maveric

#4
Hi
I started a tread at the old .org  about fitting a PCV on a GSX1400 using a Bandit 1250 unit together with a wideband lambda, so far i done around 25000km with this kit, biggest issue i had was in the beginning with a very nervous idle done by a electrical inteference of putting the earth cable on the battery as the manual said.  when i moved it close to the earth input on the ECU the problem dissapeard. kompleted the kit with a LCD-200 display so i se what happens on the fly, thogether with all the other mods on my bike i now have 168 rear wheel hp and 160 nm of tourqe  :cool: :cool: .(1550cc kit, webcams, 37mm trottlebodys hicomp pistons, modified head, acra fullsystem, and open air filters without the airbox and ofquose the PCV :).


As said here before in the thread the PCV was never launced to the GSX1400 probably as the model was not in produktion at the time of release. so i started to investigate with one was most similar of all other bikes and when i saw that the connectors for the injectors was the same on the Bandit 1250 i ordered one and hope for the best :). as a note both moddels for the bandit 1250 and gsx1250 fitts only difference is that the newest one contains a dummyplugg for the original narrowband lambda that you dont use anyway :).

Cheers Magnus aka Maveric

froudy

Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups!

VladTepes

Thanks Mav !
Sounds like you have a great setup with that bike.
I found a company that can get 160+bhp out of a GSX1400  (BIG BORE KIT ETC ETC) ... all I'd have to do is pay them $10,000...  :lol:

Ottomans: 'Hippity hoppity, Vienna's our property"
...and then the Winged Hussars arrived.

Vlad's K7 "Back in Black"
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V_i_c_i

Quote from: Maveric on Monday, 13 February  2017, 07:59 AM
Hi
I started thel tread at the old .org  about fitting a PCV on a GSX1400 using a Bandit 1250 unit together with a wideband lambda, so far i done around 25000km with this kit, biggest issue i had was in the beginning with a very nervous idle done by a electrical inteference of putting the earth cable on the battery as the manual said.  when i moved it close to the earth input on the ECU the problem dissapeard. kompleted the kit with a LCD-200 display so i se what happens on the fly, thogether with all the other mods on my bike i now have 168 rear wheel hp and 160 nm of tourqe  :cool: :cool: .(1550cc kit, webcams, 37mm trottlebodys hicomp pistons, modified head, acra fullsystem, and open air filters without the airbox and ofquose the PCV :).


As said here before in the thread the PCV was never launced to the GSX1400 probably as the model was not in produktion at the time of release. so i started to investigate with one was most similar of all other bikes and when i saw that the connectors for the injectors was the same on the Bandit 1250 i ordered one and hope for the best :). as a note both moddels for the bandit 1250 and gsx1250 fitts only difference is that the newest one contains a dummyplugg for the original narrowband lambda that you dont use anyway :).

Cheers Magnus aka Maveric

Welcome Mavrick. I´m looking for you grounding PC V photo. Can you post it here again? I don´t like searching in wiring diagrams. BR Vici

Maveric

Quote from: V_i_c_i on Monday, 13 February  2017, 05:43 PM
Quote from: Maveric on Monday, 13 February  2017, 07:59 AM
Hi
I started thel tread at the old .org  about fitting a PCV on a GSX1400 using a Bandit 1250 unit together with a wideband lambda, so far i done around 25000km with this kit, biggest issue i had was in the beginning with a very nervous idle done by a electrical inteference of putting the earth cable on the battery as the manual said.  when i moved it close to the earth input on the ECU the problem dissapeard. kompleted the kit with a LCD-200 display so i se what happens on the fly, thogether with all the other mods on my bike i now have 168 rear wheel hp and 160 nm of tourqe  :cool: :cool: .(1550cc kit, webcams, 37mm trottlebodys hicomp pistons, modified head, acra fullsystem, and open air filters without the airbox and ofquose the PCV :).


As said here before in the thread the PCV was never launced to the GSX1400 probably as the model was not in produktion at the time of release. so i started to investigate with one was most similar of all other bikes and when i saw that the connectors for the injectors was the same on the Bandit 1250 i ordered one and hope for the best :). as a note both moddels for the bandit 1250 and gsx1250 fitts only difference is that the newest one contains a dummyplugg for the original narrowband lambda that you dont use anyway :).

Cheers Magnus aka Maveric

Welcome Mavrick. I´m looking for you grounding PC V photo. Can you post it here again? I don´t like searching in wiring diagrams. BR Vici
Hi Vici i have a look tomorrow i think i have the pic on my old worklaptop if not i can always go out and take a new one ;).

Cheers Maveric

Maveric

Quote from: VladTepes on Monday, 13 February  2017, 09:41 AM
Thanks Mav !
Sounds like you have a great setup with that bike.
I found a company that can get 160+bhp out of a GSX1400  (BIG BORE KIT ETC ETC) ... all I'd have to do is pay them $10,000...  :lol:

Hi Vlad
No it's not cheap to mod your bike this way but quite fun and scary at the same tiime , for example when you doing a powerrun on the road trying to logg the fuel going from idle to max rpm in fourth gear and notice that the frontwheel leaves the road at 8000rpm  :shocked: :shocked:, was almost upp a meter before i got to ease of the trottle The speed hmmm you can image that i think  :imrgreen:. but overall i got a very gentle bike if you go ease on the trottle and at the same time if you not do that  :devil: :devil:.

Cheers Maveric

VladTepes

Don't get me wrong Mav - if I had the $ I'd be booking in immediately !

Blubber where in the exhaust is that lambda sensor?
Ottomans: 'Hippity hoppity, Vienna's our property"
...and then the Winged Hussars arrived.

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Blubber

Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 15 February  2017, 10:16 AM
Don't get me wrong Mav - if I had the $ I'd be booking in immediately !

Blubber where in the exhaust is that lambda sensor?

Sorry, missed this one.


It is located in the link pipe below the front sprocket. It measures the combined gases of cylinder 1 and 2.





Wreck-it Richard - one of the unDutchables

VladTepes

Is that a 4-2 system?

Ina 4-1 wouldn't it be better to use the sensor in the combined flow from all cylinders?
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...and then the Winged Hussars arrived.

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Blubber

Quote from: VladTepes on Friday, 17 February  2017, 10:33 PM
Is that a 4-2 system?

Ina 4-1 wouldn't it be better to use the sensor in the combined flow from all cylinders?

I did consider that.
From what i read the best location would be 1.0 meter from the exhaust port. ( temperature wise )

I used this as a reference  http://wbo2.com/lsu/LsuInstal.pdf

i looked at other 14's with a lambda sensor, my location isn't uncommon.
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Blubber

But it is a akrapovic, 4 in to 2 into 1 system.

Wreck-it Richard - one of the unDutchables

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