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Started by Bov, Wednesday, 08 February 2017, 01:18 PM

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bjbiker

Thanks for reply. It's still usable . Will strip it down later  in year.
i was just looking for alternative incase .
i just wondered what the chinese ones were like 'has anyone tried them?

seth

Not tried and aftermarket locks in years anyway for a K5 on bike you'll need to have a key that can be matched to your ecu for the imobiliser.
Chinese one well I'd guess most parts are made in China these days you pay your money and take your chance .
I'd always try and stick with standard factory parts if I could as a cheaper part might not last long at all.
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only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

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DanGSX

Hi all,

Looks like i'm in a similar situation now as well.

My key has always been a bit dodgy in the ignition - You need to push it in, then sort of pull it up while twisting to the right to turn it on. This would normally work every time once I had the 'knack' - But now It has got worse to the point where I'm struggling to get it to lock in and actually turn. I'm counting the days until i'm left stranded at this point.

I've read the various threads on here on how to take it apart and clean etc, but this is my main transport and don't own a garage, so not too keen on the idea of stripping down by the side of the road. It's looking like my only option now is to replace the entire lockset, correct? If so, what are my options? The official Suzuki sets are quite expensive, but those chinese ones on eBay are not reliable (read that in another thread) I've got a K2, so no coding.

Thanks guys.

KiwiCol

No coding on a K2, hmmm  could you not just replace the ignition assembly with one from another Suzuki of similar parentage?  So long as the switch connects the wires, it wouldn't matter what was connecting them.
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seth

As long as the plugs match you could buy a cheap ignition lock fit it.
then service your own ignition lock get a new key cut then refit to keep everything as it should be .
Your key is coming up to 17 years old so some maintainance is probably required .
The std key from Suzuki isn't to expensive from saltire Suzuki in Edinburgh as it's not the imobiliser type key .
Tell them we get 15%off from Rochdale Suzuki and I'm sure you'll get it from a good price and they'll either be able to cut the key for you or recommend who they use .
Good luck
:cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

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Simonic

After some messing around I bought a gen Suzuki one
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DanGSX

Quote from: seth on Thursday, 29 November  2018, 08:09 PM
As long as the plugs match you could buy a cheap ignition lock fit it.
then service your own ignition lock get a new key cut then refit to keep everything as it should be .
Your key is coming up to 17 years old so some maintainance is probably required .
The std key from Suzuki isn't to expensive from saltire Suzuki in Edinburgh as it's not the imobiliser type key .
Tell them we get 15%off from Rochdale Suzuki and I'm sure you'll get it from a good price and they'll either be able to cut the key for you or recommend who they use .
Good luck
:cheers:

Thanks both above for the replies!

Seth, that is a good suggestion, although your post gets me thinking about the condition of my key and if that may alleviate or fix my issue? I'm convinced it's slightly bent, but it's my only key and I don't want to snap it  :lol: I may go up to Saltire and ask them if they can get me another key - Do you know how much this should be roughly off the top of your head?

My alternative would be to buy a used lockset from a breaker and get them fitted.

Cheers

DanGSX

Quote from: Simonic on Thursday, 29 November  2018, 08:10 PM
After some messing around I bought a gen Suzuki one

How much did that set you back? 300+?

Blubber

Alternatively you can get a pre-owned set of a SV650 2001 era.
Ignition switch plugs right in, used the same petrol cap and seat lock.

There are bound to be more suitable candidates .. only I haven't tried them yet

Got to love these parts interchangeability  ;) If it looks the same.. it probably is the same

i just needed the switch for a 14 project, set me back a whopping €25 incl shipping
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Quote from: seth on Thursday, 29 November  2018, 08:09 PM
Your key is coming up to 17 years old so some maintainance is probably required .
The std key from Suzuki isn't to expensive from saltire Suzuki in Edinburgh as it's not the imobiliser type key .

I have 2 keys. The original is also coming up on 17 years. It's a pain to use it. The new one works very smooth. Probably worth a try getting a new one made. Part number for blank is 37146-33E00 (K2-3). 20£ at Robinsons. 16 £ here:http://www.bikersworldstore.co.uk/suzuki-genuine-part-key-blank-37146-33e00-000.html

seth

I use this to get part numbers and prices .
And to cross reference part numbers with other suzuki's for common shared parts
https://www.robinsonsfoundry.co.uk/shop/online-store/suzuki-parts-finder/gsx/gsx1400/k2-k3-k4-k5-k6-k7-2002-2007.htm

Says your key (blank) is £19.40

Good luck
:cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

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VladTepes

Mine worked great until I bent the bloody key on the MCR trip this year. Now it's fiddly as buggery, despite having bent the key back as best I could.

Mine's a K7 but I have no idea how the 'chip' in the key (I'm told it has one) works or how it can be replaced ? 
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DanGSX

Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 04 December  2018, 10:06 AM
Mine worked great until I bent the bloody key on the MCR trip this year. Now it's fiddly as buggery, despite having bent the key back as best I could.

Mine's a K7 but I have no idea how the 'chip' in the key (I'm told it has one) works or how it can be replaced ?

I think in your case you need to find a code which came with the bike. Maybe in owners book - Someone else on here will know, then you'll need to ask Suzuki to program a new key for your bike.

Mine also recently got a little bent due to having used it in the helmet lock. When unlocking it, I had to turn the key at an awkward angle due to the helmet being in the way. Ignition seems to be worse since that time, although I'm also sure I bent mine back very straight.

Luckily I have now learned how to make it turn every time. Put key in and push down, turn to the right while pulling up at the same time, then keep pushing it in and out while keeping pressure turned to the right and it'll slip in. Previously I didn't have to do the in/out motion as well, but now I do.

seth

@VladTepes
Your key is more expensive here they are £45
Then you need it cut and coded to match your bike.
Anyplace could recut it.
You'll need to go to a Suzuki dealer for the recoding ,should be straight forward as you have the original keys and should cost 30 minutes of labour.

My k5 r/b only came with 1 key so had to go down the route above to get the 2nd key

:cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

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gsxbarmy

Having had my K7 from new, I can advise that you were never advised of any code for the key - as there was no way of programming it, the key itself is coded to the ECU.

2 options exist - buy a new key already coded from Suzuki themselves through your dealer, or get a blank from Suzuki which you can then get cut and coded from a specialist. In both cases they will need an original key to do this and can copy the code from the existing key to the new one. All you are looking at is price, as the Suzuki price for doing what the 3rd part can also do is often more expensive for the same process.

Have you guys not got spare keys then which you can use? Trust me if you only have one key and lose that, then you will need a new ECU with coded key which is not cheap!
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