Sump plug washer

Started by Daytona, Monday, 30 April 2018, 06:16 AM

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Daytona

Picked up new washer for the sump plug ready for oil change,the washer has a groove on one side and is flat on the other side,,got issues with this as to which way to install the plug,ie groove to sump or groove to plug, spoke to two mechanics / motorcycle technicians at same dealer ship and they have different opinions on which is the correct way,anyone shed any light on this little issue.

lloydjames

Shouldn't make any difference as the washer will crush ever so slightly when torqued, the same as brake banjo washers. I presume the groove is to help it crush. I personally wouldn't lose any sleep over it.

gsxbarmy

As Lloydjames says, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, in all honesty I just put a new one on mine when I changed th eoil each time, it could have been either way up, but it never leaked.

I don't honestly think it matters, the groove is there just to help it "crush". If I had to make a choice though, I would put the grooved side face down on the sump plug (so the flat side makes contact with the sump).
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Daytona

Thanks lads,looks as though it's personal preference seeing as both mechanics install it differently,cheers.

mlivkovich

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Heat copper washer to red colour than put it in water...anneal it. It will be soft so you can bend it by hand. Good way to reuse copper washers.

lil4399

Quote from: mlivkovich on Monday, 30 April  2018, 06:27 PM
Heat copper washer to red colour than put it in water...quench it. It will be soft so you can bend it by hand. Good way to reuse copper washers.

Use to do that with my old 2 stroke cylinder head gas gets.
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gsxbarmy

Quote from: mlivkovich on Monday, 30 April  2018, 06:27 PM
Heat copper washer to red colour than put it in water...quench it. It will be soft so you can bend it by hand. Good way to reuse copper washers.

Fully agree mlivkovich - but in the UK, dealers supply aluminium crush washers rather than copper washers
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Andre

Can do similar with aluminum. Mark the piece with a Sharpie and heat until mark has disappeared. Let air cool.

The technical term for softening metals is annealing.

mlivkovich

Quote from: Andre on Tuesday, 01 May  2018, 01:43 AM
Can do similar with aluminum. Mark the piece with a Sharpie and heat until mark has disappeared. Let air cool.

The technical term for softening metals is annealing.

Thak you Andre! I will correct my post (my english is bad). Thanks for advice on aluminum washers! :cheers:

Andre

@mlivkovich was no need to correct it as I am sure we all understood. I just mentioned annealing in case someone wants to look it up (search) for various metals and purposes as the procedures differ.

Red Biker

I had a small drip from mine after helicoiling so replaced the standard washer with a dowty one and hey presto  :notworthy:
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Blubber

Quote from: Red Biker on Tuesday, 01 May  2018, 06:02 AM
I had a small drip from mine after helicoiling so replaced the standard washer with a dowty one and hey presto  :notworthy:

And that ring is also known as a USIT ring
Or dyna ring  :onya:
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As opposed to Mrs Red who is a 'dowdy' one  :thumbs_down:
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