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Started by grog, Wednesday, 06 September 2017, 02:04 PM

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grog

after cooling down today, have decided to fix. will fill with some metal paste i have. thought about brazing. metal paste sets and grips perfectly. rub down and paint. to get bar contour back, my plan, anyone a better is most welcome. bar is 25mm, im going to cut another 25mm in half, use it to fit wet n dry , just keep working until looks good. same contour that is. as far as painting. will etch prime both bars. paint to use, either hammerite black, spray can. or truck bed paint, thick, tough. rubberised and hides blemishes. are these good plans? i wanted black bars originally. all advice is most welcome. i will win, decided just because i got robbed by a wanker, dont give up. just a bit more effort needed on my side.

Andre

Great attitude Grog  :clapping: In the end you are getting the desired black bars. If they were in perfect shiny condition that may not have happend.

There are so many thieving, deceiving, dishonest etc people out there that even with our guards up we are bound to "lose" here and there. Just keep plugging away.

Reece

I have powder coated mine a semi gloss black and they turned out good and dont look to bad against the black motor.

Macon

Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 06 September  2017, 11:46 PM
So what info have you got - name, phone number, gumtree username, email address, link to ad... anything  (PM me if you prefer)


I fancy a bit of internet detective work....


And he may find he gets signed up to all sorts of things...  :mwink:

I totally agree. People are easy to find on social media. Find him and call him out so no one else ripped off by this dirtbag.   :furious:

Basil Brush

Well if thats described as a little mark in Oz - I'd be seething.

How does he sleep on a night. I have set on my 14. Unused yet. And hopefully staying that way.

Powder coating them would be the best outcome.
He who laugh's last - laugh's last...

lawrie

That guy was well out of order, did he sell them from his bike??
If so, he's a 'fellow' 1400 er, which make it even worse.
As for fixing them up, since they are going to be black, its quite easy, they can be 'flooded' with braze, but a large torch is needed, once a big area of brass is laid-down, it can be linished back to round, primed & painted, I did the same with the very rough set that were on the latest resto, but I used 2-pack & NOT powder-coat, I hate that stuff!!
I DO have to grow old, I DO NOT have to grow up.

Andre

@lawrie , you are a very experienced and well respected resto-man (we all have seen at least some of your work). You hate powder-coating. Why is that so? Very interested in your reasons as I will have to make a decision on powder-coating or paint (BOTH with appropriate primer first).

VladTepes


I love powder coat, particularly when it comes to my Land Rover.


The big benefit of paint though, is that it can be touched up.


I does take quite a bit to chip powdercoat,  but when its does chip it's not readily fixable.
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gsxbarmy

Grog - depending on what sort of finish you want - maybe try using BBQ black paint. OK it comes out matt, but it sets on rock hard (damn hard to rub down if you get it wrong), so might be an option to powder coat or spraying. Not sure how good straight over the top of chrome, you'd need to try it. I guess one could lacquer it for a shiny finish but never tried it. Cheap stuff to buy as well. Just a thought. But if you do use it, do try a sample first mate, like I said, its a so-and-so to remove if you get it wrong!
Nothing to do.............all day to do it....I love retirement :lol:

lawrie

Sorry fellas, I hope I didn't upset those who like powder coat, but many years ago I was involved with the R&D system in its early years.
Powder coating is fantastic!!  BUT, for certain things, not everything, to test the product, we'd paint a couple of 1" solid bars, then bash them together several times, if done right it wouldn't chip, VERY tough.
The 'grind' of the powder particles affected the shine, course grains equaled matt, triangular = semi-gloss & round made gloss, but even the gloss was only 'shiney-ish'!!
To make it proper glossy we had to apply a lacquer top-coat.
Then there's adhesion, powder MUST be applied to a fresh blasted surface to adhere properly, it WILL stick to smooth bare metal, but will eventually 'sheet-peel away.
Yet another, if a rusted area is blasted, it reveals a clean but pockmarked surface, powder, although quite thick usually still allows these irregularities to be seen, BUT, using a good 2-pack acrylic primer-filler, heavy build coats can be applied, rubbed-down leaving a beautiful surface ready for a high gloss topcoat.
In 'my' day, filler-primers could not be used in the powder system, but it might be different now.   
Another problem was the range of colours, ( its probably different now)  all the was, were the RAL & BS, & although many thousands, can not reproduce the many more for say, the auto world.
The bit I really don't like is the fact that if an area is damaged its just about impossible to blend in the repair, usually resulting it blasting off & starting over, as it cannot be stripped (its too bloody good) .
Its fantastic for handrails, shopfronts, & general HD duties etc.
I WOULD do wheels, car & bike, which I HAVE done, but hey, i'm biased & I LOVE rubbing down. :grin: 
I DO have to grow old, I DO NOT have to grow up.

Andre


Mick_J

Quote from: lawrie on Friday, 08 September  2017, 06:43 PM
I WOULD do wheels, car & bike, which I HAVE done, but hey, i'm biased & I LOVE rubbing down. :grin:

I'm partial to a good rub down myself, but not with wet'n'dry  ;)
Keep the rubber side down.          Mick

lawrie

Why not??   Don't knock it 'till you tried it. :grin:
I DO have to grow old, I DO NOT have to grow up.

KiwiCol

Hmmm, I think 1200 grit over the 400 personally.
😎  Always looking for the next corner.  😎

grog

mate owns radiator repair shop, superb with brazing etc. hell do my repair next week. his choice is silver solder or bronze. i trust him, will find out monday. very cheap or free. for paint, either hammerite , rustoleum or truck bed paint. its rubberised and hides blemishes, sets rock hard. Barmy your bbq paint also on list, matte finish is what i want. mate at radiator shop suggested using his black he coats rads with. tough as nails, matte, costs me nothing. hes used for years, all set up in spray booth. hang them up, spray away. chrome has to be dulled first, im onto that. we use a buzz gun at work, use for removing old gaskets. little pad, 3 choices of abrasive rating, attach to an air tool. i like this project now, glad i got ripped off, will be my touch applied. will still be less than 1/2 the cost of new ones.  :laugh:

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