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Started by Phill P, Thursday, 05 October 2023, 02:29 AM

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Hooli

Quote from: Phill P on Friday, 06 October  2023, 02:24 AMThanks for the suggestions everyone, certainly food for thought. I did have a scotoiler on my xjr which wasn't bad but the nibs at the end often got chewed

Fitted wrong then, the end should be 1/8" or so clear of the chain so it doesn't catch. They can brush against the sprocket but as that's smooth it doesn't do anything to them. It took me a while to get the hang of fitting them so the tip was close enough to do it's job but not close enough to get damaged.
On my Hornet I adapted one of the mounts for a Ducati single sider (I think, there's a few in the box) so I could fit it to the underside of the swing arm & support the delivery tube correctly. On the 14 I've got a stiff plastic pipe that the delivery tube runs inside down to the sprocket & that does the same job.

Phill P

Quote from: Hooli on Friday, 06 October  2023, 06:56 AM
Quote from: Phill P on Friday, 06 October  2023, 02:24 AMThanks for the suggestions everyone, certainly food for thought. I did have a scotoiler on my xjr which wasn't bad but the nibs at the end often got chewed

Fitted wrong then, the end should be 1/8" or so clear of the chain so it doesn't catch. They can brush against the sprocket but as that's smooth it doesn't do anything to them. It took me a while to get the hang of fitting them so the tip was close enough to do it's job but not close enough to get damaged.
On my Hornet I adapted one of the mounts for a Ducati single sider (I think, there's a few in the box) so I could fit it to the underside of the swing arm & support the delivery tube correctly. On the 14 I've got a stiff plastic pipe that the delivery tube runs inside down to the sprocket & that does the same job.

Chewed when reversing as it would sometimes fold back on itself

Batkwaka

WD40 works fine as a chain lube provided you apply it every morning. I would warm the bike on the centrestand which would rotate the back wheel slowly in neutral and give a light spray over rollers and pins. Managed 80k/km on the original Chain & Sprockets, both within service limits when replaced.
May the sun be warm & shining and your roads be smooth & winding.

BanditsHigh

Quote from: Batkwaka on Saturday, 07 October  2023, 12:36 AMWD40 works fine as a chain lube provided you apply it every morning ...

I take it you are referring to WD40 chain lube and not just WD40!!

All the best ... Barry
Still alive ... just!!

Batkwaka

Quote from: BanditsHigh on Saturday, 07 October  2023, 01:52 AM
Quote from: Batkwaka on Saturday, 07 October  2023, 12:36 AMWD40 works fine as a chain lube provided you apply it every morning ...

I take it you are referring to WD40 chain lube and not just WD40!!

All the best ... Barry

No I mean regular WD40 available at your local supermarket. O-ring chains require minimal lubricant and regular cleaning which WD40 does. Anti fling chain lube attracts contaminates that quickly turns into a grinding paste if not cleaned off.
Standard chains do require a proper lubricant.
May the sun be warm & shining and your roads be smooth & winding.

BanditsHigh

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Quote from: Batkwaka on Saturday, 07 October  2023, 02:25 AMNo I mean regular WD40 available at your local supermarket. O-ring chains require minimal lubricant and regular cleaning which WD40 does. Anti fling chain lube attracts contaminates that quickly turns into a grinding paste if not cleaned off.
Standard chains do require a proper lubricant.

WD40 isn't a lubricant meant for chains, it's a water displacement and anti-corrosion liquid, it would dissovle the grease between the pins and links of the chain!

I really don't know how you've managed to get that sort of mileage from a chain ... unless it's such a light spray that it's not penetrating beyond the o-rings!

All the best ... Barry
Still alive ... just!!

marty6187

My son has raced motocross at expert level for the last 14 years and all we have ever used to lube the chain on 250 2-stoke, 350 & 450 4-stroke moto-cross bikes is WD40 or GT85 and never had a problem with chain wear..... 

Batkwaka

Quote from: BanditsHigh on Saturday, 07 October  2023, 02:43 AM
Quote from: Batkwaka on Saturday, 07 October  2023, 02:25 AMNo I mean regular WD40 available at your local supermarket. O-ring chains require minimal lubricant and regular cleaning which WD40 does. Anti fling chain lube attracts contaminates that quickly turns into a grinding paste if not cleaned off.
Standard chains do require a proper lubricant.

WD40 isn't a lubricant meant for chains, it's a water displacement and anti-corrosion liquid, it would dissovle the grease between the pins and links of the chain!

I really don't know how you've managed to get that sort of mileage from a chain ... unless it's such a light spray that it's not penetrating beyond the o-rings!

All the best ... Barry

WD40 destroying o-rings is a fallacy and the o-rings do keep the internal grease sealed in place. The ZZR1100 I had did 80k/km, 70k/km & 65k/km respectively on three sets of chain & sprockets from 1998-2006 using only WD40.
Most bike shops will tell you you cannot use WD40 mainly because they have very expensive lubricants they would prefer you buy.
May the sun be warm & shining and your roads be smooth & winding.

grog


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