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Started by BlackAdder, Saturday, 11 March 2017, 01:53 PM

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kquacker

Quote from: kquacker on Tuesday, 26 June  2018, 08:25 PM
Morning all,

I inherited a K2 with 56k miles on her. Its been laid up for the past 5 years in a heated garage and started regularly etc. Previous owner maintained and treated her well.
But in second & fifth gear she spins/slips on opening up the throttle. It doesn't jump out of gear, it just slips. I was initially thinking it was the second gear gremlin but now that it happens in fifth also, I'm not so sure.I've given her a general service as well as fitting new parts to the clutch slave cylinder with the additional seal and fresh fluid. If it was the clutch, would it not slip in other gears also?
What do you guys think ? All advice suggestions welcome.

Well finally got round to sorting this. I found 1 bad shift fork, gears look ok. I was expecting it to be worse.

seth

Great news
Glad you found the problem and hopefully all fixed now
:cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

Sethbot Postwhore

kquacker

Yes.Just got to get it all back together now. It might help anyone having similar symptoms.

T 24

Quote from: kquacker on Sunday, 10 May  2020, 04:36 AM
Quote from: kquacker on Tuesday, 26 June  2018, 08:25 PM
Morning all,

I inherited a K2 with 56k miles on her. Its been laid up for the past 5 years in a heated garage and started regularly etc. Previous owner maintained and treated her well.
But in second & fifth gear she spins/slips on opening up the throttle. It doesn't jump out of gear, it just slips. I was initially thinking it was the second gear gremlin but now that it happens in fifth also, I'm not so sure.I've given her a general service as well as fitting new parts to the clutch slave cylinder with the additional seal and fresh fluid. If it was the clutch, would it not slip in other gears also?
What do you guys think ? All advice suggestions welcome.

Well finally got round to sorting this. I found 1 bad shift fork, gears look ok. I was expecting it to be worse.
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As you can see from your shift fork, your gears have jumped badly, and the solution is not just changing the shift fork. IMO.
Take a good look at your gear sprockets.

Those sprockets in my picks are badly damaged, but they will be ok after 4 to 5° "under cut" grinding.

kquacker

Yes I agree. The shift fork damage has to have an effect on the gears or vice versus. Although mine didn't jump out of gear, I'll err on the side of caution & get them undercut.

Good advice T24 👍

GSXKING

Yep it was a problem in first models. I had mine undercut and never had an issue since.  :clapping: :clapping: :clapping:
GSXKING 3:^)
Chris
Best allrounder I've ever owned 👍

Imola

After undercutting gears do they need to be re hardened

seth

@Imola
Nice first post it might be worth heading over to the bar and say hello .
As for the 2nd gear issue
The problem only affected a few k2 bikes(Suzuki upgraded the gear on later bikes )
Do you have a problem the 2nd gear issue made it jump out of gear .
Other things that can a
Effect the gear box are wrong oil,
Sticking clutch slave cylinder and or pushrod and gear leaver being fitted in the wrong postion
If your taking the gear box out it might be easier,cheaper and better long term fitting a 2nd hand  k5 onward gearbox .
Good luck  :cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

Sethbot Postwhore

grog

I once had a 2nd gear issue. Was in a hurry, pushing on. Came out of roundabout, thought i was in third, kicked her back, front wheel in air.  Guess i was in 2nd, sure wakes me up.

UVI

Hi fellows!
Advice needed! I have a problem to turn 2nd gear from first. It turns easy only if I accelerate the engine till 1800-2200 rmp. And it is hard to find neutral after first gear. But easy ti turn neutral after second. So it is the same issue with gear fork? Ot it can be different?

seth

Quote from: UVI on Monday, 20 May  2024, 11:38 PMHi fellows!
Advice needed! I have a problem to turn 2nd gear from first. It turns easy only if I accelerate the engine till 1800-2200 rmp. And it is hard to find neutral after first gear. But easy ti turn neutral after second. So it is the same issue with gear fork? Ot it can be different?
:doh:
I take it you didn't read the comments on your last (1st) post
Onto the bar and introduce yourself.  :whatever:

Now that said what year is your bike as a few early bikes k2's(mostly) and k3's has a problem with 2nd gear fixed on later.
If its the gearbox it's needing the gears undercut and selector folks looking at .
Easiest way is to get a k4 onwards bottom end and do a straight swap (just the bottom of the engine off and then it's easy)

Also look through this forum and read what others have do e there is a search button for a reason.
🫣
Please remember this isn't facebook
Now go to the bar and say hello  :cheers:
only a slightly modified gsx1400
oh and a standard one too

Sethbot Postwhore

Hooli

Sounds more like a dragging clutch to me, but I'm not being helpful as I don't feel like it.

T 24

I have no re hardening in my gears after 5° undercutting. That 2nd gear issue started at 93 000 km when I installed
turbo to my engine. That tiny 180 nm torque was a bit too much to my gearbox. Now it has been ok 60 000 km.

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