New member from Australia

[Irish in Oz]

Hi Nic
Where you down at Coolac recently on the Z, is it on club plates.
Jeff

[Mick_J]

That's a stunning looking Z Nic. 

[Nic]

Hi Nic
Where you down at Coolac recently on the Z, is it on club plates.
Jeff

No mate, and no again, full NSW rego.

[Nic]

That's a stunning looking Z Nic. 

Thanks MJ.

[RickC]

I'm ok with 5 gears but with 6 I just lose track, plus is the ATRE not worth having either?

A few on here swear by TRE, you can slot your timing plate which does the same thing, have a look here for comments -
I haven't done it myself but when I get bored I might. There might be another write-up on here somewhere I have seen detailed pics but it
may have been on the old Org.

https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=2105.0

[Snapey]

A few on here swear by TRE, you can slot your timing plate which does the same thing, have a look here for comments -

I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm wrong but slotting the timing plate is the alternative to the 4 degree advancer and has nothing to do with the TRE.

[Andre]

Snapey is correct.

These are two different things. Advancing the timing will not eliminate the Timing Retardation - it will only shift it. Timing is retarded by the ECU in the lower gears to meet legal requirements. A Timing Retard Eliminator will get rid of this "nonsense" and gets the timing "right" again in all gears. Slotting the timing plate advances the timing over the entire gear range. Slotting the timing plate can also be used to retard the timing (needed for turbo) - slot according to your needs. I believe it was T24 who said that for best results in a standard engine is 2° advance.

A DIY TRE can be done easily for very little $ right at the gear position sensor (GPS). When you do this, you will not be able to use an electronic gear indicator that functions by picking up the voltage from the GPS. Not really true as the gear indicator can still show you the unaltered gears correctly (ie  it will show you the "dreaded"  6th gear) An ATRE will be able to give you complete functionality. There are also ways to DIY an ATRE for little $. There are generic gear indicators that use a pick-up at the gear linkage.