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Not sure what to fit, mine still have a bit of life left in them but I'd sooner swap them in the near future rather than leave them, what do you use?

On my 14 I ran SBS Excel in the front, and EBC GG in the rear, which I found to be a nice combination. TBH there wasn't much between the SBS and EBC in the front, but SBS just had a slight edge IMO

Fitted new EBC HH front pads before my 600k ride these last 2 days. Got better as they bedded in.
Much firmer lever, good bite but still very progressive.
Well happy  :)

EBC HH for me too :onya:

Yep... EBC HH on the fronts... GG on the back

EBC HH  :onya: :onya:

I use ferodo paltinum front and rear.
This time i choosed ferodo platinum rear and sbs excell sintered front.
I have much more stopping power front but i also have noise! I hit the front brake and the bike sounds like a train!

Same as Notty  :onya:

Has anybody any experiences of Pyramid parts sintered front pads? Quite cheap, but how is the quality?
Or Gold fren pads? Unknown " ebay-marks" to me.

I have used gold-fren, they are fine will use them again, no problem.  They are TUV approved so the quality is fine.

Been using Fren Gold for a few years now, not had any problems , will keep using them

I dont like my Ferodo organic pads (and they are worn out), so I ordered EBC HH pads from England. Let´s see.....

Just purchased Goldfren S3 for rear, all I could get in a hurry for MCR, Buddy will report back on performance.

Are you charging him for the pads & new tyre + anything else you have had to put on it  :stir: :whistling:

Good idea, I'll buy more tomorrow and put it on the shelf. All in readiness for another big ride in a couple of weeks. I remapped the bike as a GSX250 so he wont be able to put much wear on the tyres or need to use the brakes. You only need to worry about returning the chains and cuffs.

Quote from: Irish in Oz on Tuesday, 17 October  2017, 04:24 PM
Good idea, I'll buy more tomorrow and put it on the shelf. All in readiness for another big ride in a couple of weeks. I remapped the bike as a GSX250 so he wont be able to put much wear on the tyres or need to use the brakes. You only need to worry about returning the chains and cuffs.

Now that's smart Jeff  :clapping:

Fit a louder horn - you don't need brakes then  :happy1:

somehow i missed the brake pad poll. usually onto that stuff but i missed it. metal gear is my choice, sold from brisbane in australia and a german site also. superb pads, best ive used. 80 aus dollars for front set. oganic or sintered available.  i fitted ebc to rear brake, threw in the bin and fitted metal gear. brake actually worked then. not sure why ebc didnt work, all you blokes love them. pistons are fine. front are superb, stop well, no noise. louder horns would work, i guess. if you want really loud horns, get a set of opel/holden astra from wreckers/breakers. like truck horns. cost stuff all. so loud. make sure you get the wires attached to them. they are loud.

I couldn't remember what was in there last just checked EBC, I wasn't impressed by them.

I use Goldfren S33 on both my bikes. Better than Suzuki OEMs for the 14 and OEMs for the OPan European. Have tried EBC in the past and found nothing special.

Quote from: Timothy Spencer on Thursday, 19 October  2017, 01:25 AM
I use Goldfren S33 on both my bikes. Better than Suzuki OEMs for the 14 and OEMs for the OPan European. Have tried EBC in the past and found nothing special.

S33 are for racing, thus I got the S3, didn't want Buddy to think he was back at Eastern Creek.

Quote from: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 19 October  2017, 10:17 AM

Quote from: Timothy Spencer on Thursday, 19 October  2017, 01:25 AM
I use Goldfren S33 on both my bikes. Better than Suzuki OEMs for the 14 and OEMs for the OPan European. Have tried EBC in the past and found nothing special.

S33 are for racing, thus I got the S3, didn't want Buddy to think he was back at Eastern Creek.

In the UK there has been a Goldfren S33 available for road bikes as well as the version for race. I'm quick, I'm told, but not fast enough to use race pads on the road. :notworthy:

Quote from: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 17 October  2017, 06:11 PM
Fit a louder horn - you don't need brakes then  :happy1:

My EBC HH started squeaking today. With a little luck they will get louder and I won't need a honking horn.  :clapping:

Put some WD40 on them Andre, that'll quieten them.  :whistling:

thats how my ebc in rear felt Col, wd40 on them except they made lots of noise. in the bin and metal gear fitted, lovely brake then. nut sure why, ebc get good raps but mine were terrible.

I've never had this on any of my 14 discs until I put the Goldfren pads in.

Strange colour you mean? Do they work ok? As ive said before, ebc highly recod on here, i got some. They just sounded terrible and no stopping power. No idea why. Everyone else loves them. Binned them, metal gear totally much better. No noise and stop.

Grog
The strange colour looks rusty, never seen it on 14 until Goldfren pads, I have Goldfren on the front of my XJ900 1983 original discs no rust. My FJR has rusty discs  don't know what pads are in it as the previous owner my mate cant remember what he put in. I can't be bothered looking because the brakes front and back are much better than the GSX and other things  :whistling:

Also used ebc in the past and thought they were rubbish, my choice and ive tried them on 2 different bikes are, bendix pads they are absolutely fantastic! Carbon lorraine are also pretty good but definitely bendix on every bike for me

I put these cheapos in my 14 last time http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/suzuki/gsx_1400_k2_k3/02-03/picture/pads_front_brenta_standard_gg_type/

Better than EBC as far as I'm concerned. They work in all weathers, aren't grabby & but are powerful. I'll keep fitting them from now on.

Have never used bendix on bike but stuck a set in my car, couldnt believe how much better it stops. Was the dearest option but work so good.

As to the beginning squeal of my EBC HH, found that the copper layer had quickly worn off. Of cause applied the usual copper paste. Now I have to use the horn again to announce my coming.

Haven't heard of Brenta and Bendix before. Quick online search found the sintered version to be compatible in price with the EBC... but only for the UK. In G the Bendix come at a high premium.

What are these? Tokico original?
Are they any good - could not find anything usable in internet, regarding those pad.

I'v got them with my second hand SV1000 calipers.

@northern . Try with those Tocico pads. They are probably OK, they seems to be in good condition and can be even better than our standard "EBC HH" pads.
And please tell us when you know what kind they are.

Ps. Is there some problem with standard six pot calipers or why are you changing them away? Or is it some kind of trend?
I have now 121 000 km and I haven't had any problems, do I ride too slowly??
If you don't need those six pot calipers anymore I can buy one to fit it to rear end. Rear brake of 14 is too weak, I have done every services and mods to it I know.

My standard rear brake is very good.
I have actaully locked it up twice now when I needed to stop pretty quickly..
Once was for a dumb ass sheep that decided to cross suddenly in front of me and once for a dumb ass mate (lol) who also decided to stop for no reason..
Im in favour of the 4 pot front calipwr mod but I dread to think what a 6 pot rear set up would be like in an emergency !

My standard rear brake is good but I have to keep stripping cleaning and lubing all the peddle and linkages as they him up making the brake less powerful. I do this every winter and mid season also give the pivots around the peddle a squirt of chain pub after I've washed the bike .
:cheers:

Good advice re. the rear brake pivot. They can get pretty dry. Makes the world of difference when you keep it seviced.

The other thing with the rear brake is that it gets crudded quite badly around the pistons, more so than the front as there (seems to be) less movement on the rear pistons. Every few months I used to take off my caliper, drop the pads out and then put a thin piece of wood inbetween the pistones whilst I pumped them out slightly, enough to get a toothbrush around where the usually sit with the dust seal and scrubbed off the built up crud.

If you are looking to change though, I know with some of the aftermarket wheels you can fit, of one guy who shoehorned in a Busa rear caliper. Took some slight modification to the rear hanger I believe, and whether it makes any difference I don't know, but that may be an option.

Generally though I found that keeping the rear brake clean of dust and crud build up it worked well. Personally I ran EBC GG pads as I found the HH sintered a little too drastic, so preferred the slightly softer pad so I couldn't lock the rear wheel (except with major force) but still have controlled rear braking when required

I might give the EBC GG pads a crack next time - the 14 can do with a few more GG's. 

It's no GG's you need from brake pads it's WOHWOH's
:lowside: :rofl4:

Dogs?  no, that's Bow Woh's init.  :rofl2:

my rear brake was terrible from original. some say they arent needed, just an  add on to look good. i disagree. use mine all the time, especially in town, traffic etc. i tried ebc pads, no good, goodridge pads, no good. fitted new metal gear rotor and their sintered pads. works perfect. stops well but cant lock it up. amazing difference. 

Cheapest pads off wemoto & keep the calipers clean enough to work is enough for me. Plenty of braking power and control when needed.

My rear brake has been inspected, cleaned, lubricated, fluids changed, 3 different type pads tested, but small is small, And it locks on tarmac, but needs too much force to be sensitive.
I have driven over 300 000 km with bigger and better rear brakes, so that's why I miss more powerful rear brake.

@T 24
Jussi, there is nothing wrong with my 6 pots calipers. And with EBC HH pads, they are pretty good.
But - 14 is my hobby. My therapy. And if I have possibilities to make it (at least little bit) better -why not?

Regarding braking - my goal here is not so much about braking distance but braking smoothness. 4 pot summary piston area is bigger then 6 pot pistons area. It mean, what I have to press brake lever little bit more, and at the same time less will less strength. I'm training myself to brake with only 2 fingers (holding them constantly on a brake lever), and this modification (theoretically) should make braking more efficient.
This is how I see it, and I really hope it will be worth effort and money I spend.

If not - in this case I would get personal experience :)

I usually brake (6-pods) with just one finger - the middle one as that, from use, is the strongest :whistling:

@northern
14, hobby and therapy, that's what it really is to me too. And of course commuting bike, 5000 km during this season.
And thank you for the exact answer! Now I understand the reason.
I didn't know that those piston areas went that way. Can you remember those 4 pot piston diameters?

@T 24
I dicete to move caliper discussion from pad topit to 4-pot caliper topic: http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=697.msg37021#msg37021