Received my renewal of registration for my BMW R1200RT and couldn't believe my eyes CTP
is compulsory third party insurance.
Here in Australia we don't have to have fully comprehensive insurance to ride on the roads like other countries but CTP seems to be getting rorted.
There's no way around it unfortunately and you pay it for each vehicle even though you can only operate one at a time.
We have to tax our bikes if they are going to be used even though as you say I can only ride one at a time. It would be better if they put the tax on petrol so you only pay when you use the bike and those who use the roads more pay more. Would save me a bloody fortune as tax on a bike is £127 (I think).
We have a "Road Tax" built into the petrol price. It isn't a fair system as everything that uses petrol pays a road tax. Things like mowers, chainsaws and especially BOATS. Boats use heaps of fuel & we're paying bloody road tax on it!! No, you can't claim any of it back either.
Bright side is the govt is looking to scrap the road tax in petrol & put all road users onto "Road User Charges" that currently only diesel vehicles have to pay - cos there's no road tax on diesel. That would be a fairer system. Electric vehicles will also be incorporated into paying for the roads they drive on, currently (or used to) they got a free ride, no road tax at all.
"Road tax" as a fund specifically for roads was abolished in the UK on April 1, 1937, under the Finance Act 1936, ending its direct link to road maintenance and making it general taxation. Motorists now pay Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), or "car tax," which goes into general government funds and funds roads indirectly, alongside income tax and VAT, with current VED rates based on emissions.
Which is why I get annoyed when uneducated car Drivers scream "you should pay road tax" when I'm out on my Bicycle, which has no emissions, and the road fund tax was actually begun by cyclists in the first place, before cars claimed the roads for themselves.
Despite the fact that I pay VED on 2 bikes, a van and a car.
Plus judging by the state of the roads round here it gets spent on anything but the roads.
D.D.
Quote from: Dwain Dibley on Tuesday, 23 December 2025, 10:47 PM"Road tax" as a fund specifically for roads was abolished in the UK on April 1, 1937, under the Finance Act 1936, ending its direct link to road maintenance and making it general taxation. Motorists now pay Vehicle Excise Duty (VED), or "car tax," which goes into general government funds and funds roads indirectly, alongside income tax and VAT, with current VED rates based on emissions.
Which is why I get annoyed when uneducated car Drivers scream "you should pay road tax" when I'm out on my Bicycle, which has no emissions, and the road fund tax was actually begun by cyclists in the first place, before cars claimed the roads for themselves.
Despite the fact that I pay VED on 2 bikes, a van and a car.
Plus judging by the state of the roads round here it gets spent on anything but the roads.
D.D.
Perhaps the increasing concern in 1937 about the geopolitical landscape in Europe resulted in folk not spotting that the abolition of road tax occurred on April Fools Day. Imagine how fabulous the UK's roads would now be, if this charade had been noticed!
A lot of changes occur on the first day of the financial year.
Qld's "CTP" insurance used to be a good thing.
Registering a bike as a single seat and not having a pillion seat or rear pegs meant no pillion at risk, or able to claim. There used to be a very significant reduction in price for single seat rego, my Busa, GSX14 and a few others were registered as single seat, I only kept one as dual seat, it helped make multiple bikes affordable.
Then a year or two they bumped single seat rego up much closer to duel seat. It's still a small saving but not a big deal now.
Unlike some other countries and states, Qld doesn't have annual safety certs or MOT's, IF the vehicle remains taxed. My B-King is 18 and has never had a safety cert or MOT because it's always had road tax or rego.
IF I don't pat the road tax and park it up for 6 months or a year, then it needs a MOT / safety cert / inspection and a new numberplate to put it back on the road again.
When I did my 2 house moves / build etc I was paying rego on bikes in storage just to avoid having to get a new safety cert, new plates etc.
Annual bike road tax isn't cheap here, but I remind myself that fuel is cheaper and the weather better than I had elsewhere, and so many great places to ride all year round.
Dec 24th, temps between 20 to 27 C today, fuel is $1:67, (82p ltr)
Government taxation, has nothing to do with being fair. It is simply, about extorting money out of the working class, to pay themselves, higher allowances. :furious:
And there is bugger all, any of us can do about it, because whoever, you vote for, the Government always, gets in. :whatever:
Don't forget the QLD government recovering monies to help fund rebuilds after floods and fires, on top of that, private insurance companies also put their premiums up yo cover their recent payouts.
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Wednesday, 24 December 2025, 01:56 PMDon't forget the QLD government recovering monies to help fund rebuilds after floods and fires, on top of that, private insurance companies also put their premiums up yo cover their recent payouts.
Yeah, and like the $220,000,000 they put into the Wellcamp Quarantine facility before they changed their mind and handed it back to Wagner...... :frustrated:
Not enough room on here to discuss Qld Govt.Better off to just look at motorbike stuff.I survive and thats what interests me most.