If we don't go EV we either drown or fry.... so we're told. But we're saved if we pay Carbon Tax. Can someone less ignorant than I please explain to me how that works ?
Because I can I ask what effect does wrapping the planet in a cuddly rug of satellites do to us. If we cannot see each individuaĺ communication or message these provide do they have zero effect on us ?
I was stunned when the wife mentioned an image she had seen showing the number of satellites in orbit.
I'm off to buy some more tinfoil, plant a pinetree and fill up my superyacht.
:whatever:
:happy1: :happy1: Col don't get sucked into the climate con bs it's all starting to unravel now and many countries realising it's all too much too quickly they're ruining their economies chasing a fantasy.
Yes this rush to destroy our life's savings has gone mad here in the UK. We pay people to have wind turbines and solar panels on their land. Then we pay them more when they produce electricity. Then if it's too windy we pay them even more to turn them off and when the sun is too shiny we pay them more to turn off the solar panels. I'm going to get rich by buying a field and putting solar panels and a wind turbine on it, money for old rope. It's enough to drive you mad, when will these idiot wake up. If only just stop oil knew how much oil it takes to run a wind turbine.
I think there's an insane amount of oil in the gearbox of a wind turbine, from (old foggy) memory it was about 400 litres or so. and it need changing, waaaay up there in the sky . . .
Quote from: Mick_J on Sunday, 20 July 2025, 06:21 PMYes this rush to destroy our life's savings has gone mad here in the UK. We pay people to have wind turbines and solar panels on their land. Then we pay them more when they produce electricity. Then if it's too windy we pay them even more to turn them off and when the sun is too shiny we pay them more to turn off the solar panels. I'm going to get rich by buying a field and putting solar panels and a wind turbine on it, money for old rope. It's enough to drive you mad, when will these idiot wake up. If only just stop oil knew how much oil it takes to run a wind turbine.
And we produce less than 1% of the global emissions in the UK, although I'm sure we ask China to produce alot of our stuff .
It's like not having a bonfire because your so green but you then ask your neighbour to burn your garden waste, still affects everyone. And they still ram it down our throats whilst fly to a global emissions conference on a jet :whatever:
It's all bollox & more & more people are noticing.
Stuff like Spain going dark for a day last month? has really helped with that. Apparently the cause was the solar farms turning off as they weren't getting paid enough for the power they produced. Which then lead to a cascade of the grid tripping out to protect itself from over demand (compared to the remaining generation capacity). Pretty much they had to turn Spain off & on again to fix it.
Not aluminum foil but toilet paper to wrap our white arrogance.
Marx said.....
Quote from: Phill P on Sunday, 20 July 2025, 08:22 PMQuote from: Mick_J on Sunday, 20 July 2025, 06:21 PMYes this rush to destroy our life's savings has gone mad here in the UK. We pay people to have wind turbines and solar panels on their land. Then we pay them more when they produce electricity. Then if it's too windy we pay them even more to turn them off and when the sun is too shiny we pay them more to turn off the solar panels. I'm going to get rich by buying a field and putting solar panels and a wind turbine on it, money for old rope. It's enough to drive you mad, when will these idiot wake up. If only just stop oil knew how much oil it takes to run a wind turbine.
And we produce less than 1% of the global emissions in the UK, although I'm sure we ask China to produce alot of our stuff .
It's like not having a bonfire because your so green but you then ask your neighbour to burn your garden waste, still affects everyone. And they still ram it down our throats whilst fly to a global emissions conference on a jet :whatever:
Not that conference where they cut down over hundreds of acres of trees to provide a road for the 7 days? 🤬
My solar has worked well for years, saved me lots, virtually zero electricity cost. Now, rules have changed, obviously overloaded, have cut input tariff back to fuck all, this bill will be around $500 with only $100 solar credit. :angry:
We're getting 7c per kwh as a rebate yet they charge 23c per kwh. The electricity I generate is not 1/3 the quality of what they provide me, and the infrastructure costs are not 50% of their terrific structure, so it's purely driven by financial gain imho.
The council gave me a grant to build a house with a log burner. I even put it on the plans.
Why the Hell would they do that ?
I'm getting mixed messages here!
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One of my places to go and play is out towards Coopers Gap.
Theres 123 turbines there. I rarely see many moving and always some being worked on.
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I wonder how much 123 of them take for an oil change?
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Bit warmer tonight so just letting it tick over.
Should I be burning all my plastic to save it from going to landfill ?
Asking for a friend.....
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Quote from: Kiwifruit on Monday, 21 July 2025, 08:13 PMBit warmer tonight so just letting it tick over.
Should I be burning all my plastic to save it from going to landfill ?
Asking for a friend.....
I'd say no as I believe they end up coating the inside of your flue & reducing it's efficiency & life span. At least that's how I understood it when I had log burners.
No...I don't even burn treated timber Hooli.
Pifffff, we still burn COAL here, and we're allowed to! Hell, the supermarkets even sell 20kg bags of the stuff. Helps if you're a coal mining town I guess . . . The pubs here still have open fires & burn coal, Strongman coal.
Here's a pic of the sign above the Nelson Creek pub doorway, and they're not joking either . . .
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Used to live next to an orchard and the neighbour had a massive pile of stuff to burn heaped up on his yard. One evening it's burning and because I quite like a fire I went over. Asked him how on earth did you get that to light. He says you gotta get a few tyres fill'em with diesel then light them, you won't put that out.
He might have started climate change that night. Took a couple of days to burn but he kept pushing it all in with his tractor, just some wire, nails and tyre beads to pick up, job done.
Did a lot of work for a truck yard. One day I'm in the office and see pinned to the wall a 'fire permit' to burn pallets and packaging.
I went past when the fire was going and it was massive. I said that was more than pallets, John says yeah we burned the pallets and packaging then pushed the fire onto the old house that was on the property. Tuesday evening, Brigade training night. John was the deputy fire chief at the local Omokoroa Volunteer Fire Brigade, a lot of the guys at the yard were members. Good buggers lots of funny stories.
Good old practicality
Quote from: KiwiCol on Sunday, 20 July 2025, 06:24 PMI think there's an insane amount of oil in the gearbox of a wind turbine, from (old foggy) memory it was about 400 litres or so. and it need changing, waaaay up there in the sky . . .
I worked in a pretty large printing firm for a while.
All our guillotines were hydraulic, held several gallons and got regular oil changes. Unlike engine oil, the old oil still came out golden and actually looked fine.
We were supposed to pay a disposal fee, but a local farmer collected it and was happy to take it away.
I later found out he had a spray gun that would spray it. He was coating everything with it, fence posts, old trailers and muck spreaders left in the paddock, anything. If it was steel or timber it got a regular coat of our old oil. He thought it was wonderful !
I guess all these years later I'd now need a mountain of paperwork to show I'd responsibly disposed of it.
My last work, disposal engine oil fee meant my boss profit was negative on oil used in services. No wonder she sold out.
To say nothing of the constant forest fires in Canada - one volcano eruption wipes out all human effort - Climate Change Human made?! - total BS!
Carbon farming, or planting pinetrees on farms that have been purchased by overseas companies to offset
their carbon tax liabilities are having a major impact on those areas. They take a working farm get rid of the farming, then plant trees that will never be harvested.
So ole mate that was doing the fencing, the shearing, the milking, croping, selling the fert, servicing the farm equipment etc no longer has work. The cost and long term effect of that is not seen by the oversees owner, but is certainly noticeable within the local community in the form of unemployment and the issues that come along with that.......It's just idiotic to do it.
Same here productive farming land covered in acres and acres of solar panels. Clearing forests on mountain tops to erect wind turbines that kill bird life.
It just doesn't make any sense to normal humans. 🤯🤯🤯🤬🤬🤬
Makes BlackRock & other companies that are in the WEF even richer though, helps their plans to destroy western society & make the world back into serfs too.
/tinfoil hat
There is a fine line between denialism and criticism of the correct and committed actions of governments-states