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Technically Speaking => General Technical discussion => Topic started by: banditen73 on Tuesday, 15 July 2025, 06:04 PM

Title: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: banditen73 on Tuesday, 15 July 2025, 06:04 PM
Does anyone hare have a Steering Damper Stabilizer mounted on there bike?
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Mick_J on Tuesday, 15 July 2025, 06:38 PM
As far as I know, no.  The bike is plenty stable enough, why would you want to fit one unless you have changed the geometry of the frame.  I don't think the lads that have put rear shock risers have found they need a steering damper.
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 15 July 2025, 06:50 PM
Mick, did i miss something, what is your new bike? No need for steering damper on 14.
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Mick_J on Tuesday, 15 July 2025, 07:53 PM
No grog you didn't miss anything.  I was responding the the previous post by Banditen.  I pick up my new bike tomorrow, swapped from Thursday due to rain.
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: seth on Tuesday, 15 July 2025, 10:48 PM
They can help but you'll lose a fair bit of stearing lock .
They can work well but problems are mostly down to other factors like tyre wear ,wrong pressures and poor suspension settings or condition .
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 15 July 2025, 11:41 PM
I haven't, but I've thought about it.

Folk always think they are a bandaid on a problem, but there's more to it than that.
They let you run much more sporty or aggressive geometry without the fear of high speed instability.
By far the majority of high performance or Sportsbikes run dampers. All my Busa's, B-King, GSXR1100 and my modded GSX1100 have dampers.

A stock 14 rely doesn't need one,
a 14 with a good lift in the rear to increase clearance and quicken up the steering and tip in would benefit.

Dez, who had a real nice modded 14 in Brisbane ran a damper on his. 
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 16 July 2025, 02:31 AM
What race tracks do you guy's go on.
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: banditen73 on Wednesday, 16 July 2025, 05:30 AM
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 15 July  2025, 11:41 PMI haven't, but I've thought about it.

Folk always think they are a bandaid on a problem, but there's more to it than that.
They let you run much more sporty or aggressive geometry without the fear of high speed instability.
By far the majority of high performance or Sportsbikes run dampers. All my Busa's, B-King, GSXR1100 and my modded GSX1100 have dampers.

A stock 14 rely doesn't need one,
a 14 with a good lift in the rear to increase clearance and quicken up the steering and tip in would benefit.

Dez, who had a real nice modded 14 in Brisbane ran a damper on his. 

I found out that with wider handlebar it got a little unstable at higher speed iam doing some trackdays my old 1400 had a narrow handlebar and are more stable.
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: banditen73 on Wednesday, 16 July 2025, 05:33 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 16 July  2025, 02:31 AMWhat race tracks do you guy's go on.
Iam doing some trackdays at Gotlandring in sweden 😃
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Teufel on Wednesday, 16 July 2025, 08:47 AM
Sorry.
I said a few things that may or may not upset some people, so I have decided to err on the side of caution.
But, I have ridden several tracks on my 1400.
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 20 July 2025, 07:19 PM
Quote from: Teufel on Wednesday, 16 July  2025, 08:47 AMSorry.
I said a few things that may or may not upset some people, so I have decided to err on the side of caution.
But, I have ridden several tracks on my 1400.

Not sure who you may have upset  ;) My point is I never found the need for one on public road use and my bike has no modifications.
I am not sure what modifications I would have to make to need one.
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Hooli on Sunday, 20 July 2025, 11:38 PM
Any 14 I've experienced where people said the bars shook & it needed a steering damper turned out to just need fixing properly.

As said before it'll be tyres/wheel bearings/swingarm bearings/steering bearings, fork bushes etc - not in that order, I'd say wheel & swing arm bearings are the least likely. It's always been forks/steering bearings in my experiences.
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Phill P on Tuesday, 22 July 2025, 03:01 AM
Only time I felt the front get nervous on acceleration was when I tried the jack up blocks on the rear shocks
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: banditen73 on Friday, 25 July 2025, 01:05 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Sunday, 20 July  2025, 11:38 PMAny 14 I've experienced where people said the bars shook & it needed a steering damper turned out to just need fixing properly.

As said before it'll be tyres/wheel bearings/swingarm bearings/steering bearings, fork bushes etc - not in that order, I'd say wheel & swing arm bearings are the least likely. It's always been forks/steering bearings in my experiences.
I have checkt all that there is no problem on the street.it's comming out on the stright second or third gear. A can ad that my bike have 1550cc ported webcam and possible bore throttlebody 153hk 7300rpm 166nm 5300rpm 😅
Title: Re: Steering Damper Stabilizer
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 25 July 2025, 02:58 AM
Hmm, it's not unknown for stock swingarms to twist under higher power. I know people who drag them have seen issues, is that worth thinking about?

I'd forgotten/not known your 14 is a bit tweaked.