Firstly I apologise for posting this here, but i'm sure that we have some car mechanics among us
I have a 2019 Mercedes GLC220 & the amber engine management light is illuminated though performance at the moment is not affected. I had the car serviced this week at my local independent Mercedes garage (they are authorised by Merc and can upload service repairs to the Merc system) anyway they have diagnosed the fault as the soot particulate sensor and the Merc part No is A000 905 06 08 and have quoted just shy of £500 to replace :furious: the sensor its self is £370 inc vat
Looking on the internet tonight the Bosch part No is 0 281 007 099 which can be purchased at less than £150
I suppose my query is can I just buy this Bosch sensor fit it, clear the fault and job done or would there be any additional programming that would need to be done? I want to get the fault repaired as soon as I can to prevent any further damage & cost
Thanks and apologies again
Pete
Quote from: Will14 on Saturday, 30 September 2023, 05:50 AMFirstly I apologise for posting this here, but i'm sure that we have some car mechanics among us
I have a 2019 Mercedes GLC220 & the amber engine management light is illuminated though performance at the moment is not affected. I had the car serviced this week at my local independent Mercedes garage (they are authorised by Merc and can upload service repairs to the Merc system) anyway they have diagnosed the fault as the soot particulate sensor and the Merc part No is A000 905 06 08 and have quoted just shy of £500 to replace :furious: the sensor its self is £370 inc vat
Looking on the internet tonight the Bosch part No is 0 281 007 099 which can be purchased at less than £150
I suppose my query is can I just buy this Bosch sensor fit it, clear the fault and job done or would there be any additional programming that would need to be done? I want to get the fault repaired as soon as I can to prevent any further damage & cost
Thanks and apologies again
Pete
normally sensors like that can just be replaced and the fault code deleted. also if you pull the sensor out it might just need a clean, do you do a lot of short journeys ?
Quote from: hard road on Saturday, 30 September 2023, 06:54 AMQuote from: Will14 on Saturday, 30 September 2023, 05:50 AMFirstly I apologise for posting this here, but i'm sure that we have some car mechanics among us
I have a 2019 Mercedes GLC220 & the amber engine management light is illuminated though performance at the moment is not affected. I had the car serviced this week at my local independent Mercedes garage (they are authorised by Merc and can upload service repairs to the Merc system) anyway they have diagnosed the fault as the soot particulate sensor and the Merc part No is A000 905 06 08 and have quoted just shy of £500 to replace :furious: the sensor its self is £370 inc vat
Looking on the internet tonight the Bosch part No is 0 281 007 099 which can be purchased at less than £150
I suppose my query is can I just buy this Bosch sensor fit it, clear the fault and job done or would there be any additional programming that would need to be done? I want to get the fault repaired as soon as I can to prevent any further damage & cost
Thanks and apologies again
Pete
normally sensors like that can just be replaced and the fault code deleted. also if you pull the sensor out it might just need a clean, do you do a lot of short journeys ?
Thanks for the reply, the Mrs uses the car to go to work five days a week, approx 15 miles each way & almost all dual carriageway
The fault code is p24c600 which apparently tells them its an electrical fault with the sensor :doh:
15 miles is not a lot for a diesel, a good run out at higher revs (lower gear) could just burn off the crap on the tip of the sensor, or some carb cleaner
Thanks for that, I suppose it cant do any harm to take it for a good run over the weekend, if I could get the car up in the air I would whip the sensor out and try to give it a clean but no pit or ramp available unfortunately
Cheers
Quote from: Will14 on Saturday, 30 September 2023, 07:17 AMThanks for that, I suppose it cant do any harm to take it for a good run over the weekend, if I could get the car up in the air I would whip the sensor out and try to give it a clean but no pit or ramp available unfortunately
Cheers
its a cheap fix if it works, but you will need to clear the code afterwards probably.
I used to work at a Nissan garage and to clear the exhaust codes they plug the car into the computer and leave the car running for ages, the computer will raise and lower the rev's by its self !!!!!
My mate (builder) has a van, which typically only gets used at low revs around town with his work and on occasion the particulate throws up an error due to soot build-up. From what I recall, what he was recommended to do was take the van for a good run so it gets good and hot, and that generally clears the light by burning off the soot.
Had a little giggle to myself reading this. Firstly I'm old ! I was a mech in the mid sixties and will never forget having an older fella come in with a Jaguar Mk11 3.8 Running rough and fluffing about. I took it out on the motorway and gave it a good workout.
Owner came back and said thanks for the tune up it's running great! lol. :happy1:
Yep, the fastest way to kill a diesel is short runs. Give it an Italian tune up and a long, high speed run, like a day trip 500 miles or so. Sounds like the dpf (diesel particulate filter) is full, usually they need a long, high temp run to burn clean, some have an extra injector installed there, and on a long trip, this will ignite in there and burn the build up away, usually accompanied by a DPF logo on the display.
Also no reason not to replace the part with an aftermarket equivalent. Most of the time, you are paying for a car makers logo on the box. BOSCH is reputable, I'd have no issues installing that sensor and saving 350 quid.
Will, not easy sometimes DPF probs. Long hard run might cure it. My work Hilux, just gone, had 5 new filters/180th ks, under wrty. I wont write their price,no one would believe.
Morning
Thanks for all the replies, will fill the car with some of the more expensive Diesel today and take it for a good run and go from there. The only question is where to go from rural wales, will probably end up in Manchester as it will be all dual carriageway/motorway but that will end up at a shopping centre which I'm sure the Mrs will make the most of :doh:
Thanks again & I will update once done
Cheers
Pete
Had a look, thought there might be a way to make car do a forced burn. Unfortunately need a scan tool.Pity your not closer, i could do it for you.
B B B But Grog...
Is South Wales in a different area than Mew South Wales??
:stir:
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Quote from: Speedy1959 on Saturday, 30 September 2023, 04:18 PMB B B But Grog...
Is South Wales in a different area than Mew South Wales??
:stir:
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just a tad further South, not much...
Queensland Speedy, a touch closer😂
So this afternoon I started the car and the EML light came on straight away, switched off connected the code reader and cleared the fault, restarted the car and drove it a good 50 miles without the light coming back on (Previously the light would come back on straight away) parked the car up for 40 minutes or so, started the engine and the light came back on after a few seconds, same as earlier cleared the code and drove the long way home no light & car going like it should do, on the way home I had the auto stop start switched on and got caught in a bit of traffic and at some traffic lights, the car stopped and restarted as it should with no light illuminated. When I got home switched the car off on the driveway and restarted after a few minutes and yup the light came back on
So the light will stay off when being driven and only comes back on when the ignition is cycled. When I clear the code I get an amber light as opposed to the green tick I normally get when a code is erased but no codes are showing as being present
I am now wondering if a combination of the car having a full service including oil & filter this week, the tank of fresh V Power Diesel along with DPF cleaning additive may have done some good, and my £25 code reader knocking the light out but not actually clearing the fault from the ECU?
Some slight positives there I hope :confused1:
What's the actual code? That'd be the first thing to determine in solving this. Did the service timer get reset after that work?
Reckon Grog will be your man on this . . .
Quote from: KiwiCol on Sunday, 01 October 2023, 05:14 AMWhat's the actual code? That'd be the first thing to determine in solving this. Did the service timer get reset after that work?
Reckon Grog will be your man on this . . .
The code is P24C600 which apparently points to the soot particle sensor in the exhaust - It just seems strange to me that now if i clear the fault the light doesnt come back on again until the ignition is cycled again
The service timer was reset when the work was done in the week, my initial thought last weekend when the light first came on it could have been down to the quality of the old oil degrading
If I have to change the sensor will, just a bit of a pill to swallow at £500 especially on a 4.5 year car which cost well over £40K when new :furious:
Thanks eveyrone for your input, much appreciated
Pete
Seems this is a common Merc fault, so much that Merc Canada extended the wrty on DPF sensor. As for scanners,there are scanners then there are scanners.My small one,read and clear but if i connect workshop mega dollar tool, it can take 1/2 hr to scan and often finds numerous faults still logged.Tough one Will.
Generic code readers will only clear codes from the display, not from the ECU. Don't need to spend megabucks like a full workshop unit, but a £25 jobby won't cut the mustard either.
Re sensor, I'd go with the aftermarket Bosch unit for sure if it has the same part no.
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Sunday, 01 October 2023, 10:05 AMGeneric code readers will only clear codes from the display, not from the ECU. Don't need to spend megabucks like a full workshop unit, but a £25 jobby won't cut the mustard either.
Re sensor, I'd go with the aftermarket Bosch unit for sure if it has the same part no.
I agree, go with the Bosch part, they are quality German parts and you will find that some parts in a Merc box will be Bosch, same with BMW.
Quote from: grog on Saturday, 30 September 2023, 02:11 PMWill, not easy sometimes DPF probs. Long hard run might cure it. My work Hilux, just gone, had 5 new filters/180th ks, under wrty. I wont write their price,no one would believe.
Oh I would. DPF are ridiculous. That an ad-blue are useless shite foisted on us for "reasons".
Yep I'll stick to my old Tdi diesel Landy :)
The car has been fixed at long last, purchased the sensor via an approved independent Merc garage who also fitted it. The only difference with the sensor was it didn't have a Merc part number printed on it
The garage fitted the sensor & updated to the latest Mercedes software without any issues, the whole job worked out half the original price and was done in less than an hour
I wrote to Merc customer services over a month ago and have phoned them since, still no reply, I have also phoned the local official merc dealership three times in a month and still didn't manage to speak with the service department, they are short staffed apparently but will get back to me lol, Mercedes customer service is shocking. I will be changing the car next year but will not be going for another Mercedes
Thanks again for your replies
Pete
Well done Will. Not a pessimist but Mates neighbour had similar fixed. It stuffed up again, took it and traded it in. Your call but just saying.
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 08 November 2023, 05:13 PMWell done Will. Not a pessimist but Mates neighbour had similar fixed. It stuffed up again, took it and traded it in. Your call but just saying.
Totally agree with you Grog, I think get xmas out of the way and trade her in for something different I did think about electric possibly but will delay the inevitable I think
Thanks
Many years ago Mercedes built things to a high quality and they lasted. For some time now that has no longer been the case. Shame.
Most German cars I wouldn't even consider, and especially here as prices are inflated.
Japanese cars on the other hand are (generally) pretty good as are Hyundai and Kia.
Buy an old Merc then Vlad . . .
Quote from: VladTepes on Thursday, 09 November 2023, 11:21 AMMany years ago Mercedes built things to a high quality and they lasted. For some time now that has no longer been the case. Shame.
Most German cars I wouldn't even consider, and especially here as prices are inflated.
Japanese cars on the other hand are (generally) pretty good as are Hyundai and Kia.
Fully agree.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 09 November 2023, 07:36 PMBuy an old Merc then Vlad . . .
How old? Wouldn't buy a Merc build after 2000. I had a private talk with an official Merc repair shop headman almost 20 years ago. When I naively stated that they are good cars his reply was : "Nope!!! They used to be good. Now they got lots of problems. Mostly the electrical/electronic type."
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 09 November 2023, 07:36 PMBuy an old Merc then Vlad . . .
If I even win the lotto I'll be getting one of these for sure.
450SL
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and a
280SE
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