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Title: Maybe just me ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 01:24 PM
Do you ever have those days where you wake up thinking "What I need in my life is an antique Villiers powered concrete mixer" ?

(https://i.ibb.co/fFdG97D/E36-CB42-D-42-C1-4-B35-B55-D-5846959-C4365.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g9ZFdC4)

Fuel tap is a plastic replacement but even that has gone brittle and cracked. Clean the plug, splash of fuel down the plug hole and spin it over and it fires! Doesn't run, but coughs and farts and pops a bit of smoke out so it's all there and somewhere near.

I couldn't let it go to the dump or scrap man. That's just wrong.
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 01:26 PM
Initially I thought the drums OK chuck an electric motor on it, or give it a coat of paint and fill it full of geraniums to sit outside my shed, but it'd be funny to have it working and actually use it.
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 02:36 PM
Brilliant! Now you know it fires, you have to get it running Tony. What a great piece of historical kit!!!
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Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 03:45 PM
I'd want to get it running too, even with no use for it
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Post by: grog on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 05:11 PM
How old ya reckon Tony?
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 05:43 PM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 27 June  2023, 05:11 PMHow old ya reckon Tony?

Not sure. I'm still researching.

It looks like a lot of the pics of a "Villiers Mark 10" as they sold them as a unit with fuel tank, carb, exhaust etc ready to bolt onto anything.
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 06:44 PM
Reckon you might be right. They started making them 1952. Theres a number, last two digits are production date.
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 07:54 PM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 27 June  2023, 06:44 PMReckon you might be right. They started making them 1952. Theres a number, last two digits are production date.

Thanks. I'll look for some numbers.

I like stuff like this. My family still have old tractors, grandfather clocks, desks, guns etc. I'm sure some folk'd think it was junk but I like it.
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Post by: Andre on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 09:49 PM
I like to see the old stuff. My sis-in-law likes them too. She scours the nearby desert and picks up metal stuff people threw out there. Then she places her treasures in her front yard. Looks really cool imo.

I like old stuff that's kept (or restored) in working order even more. :onya:
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Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 10:21 PM
Proper old school engineering with all mechanical control systems will always be much cooler than anything that cheats & uses computers.
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Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Tuesday, 27 June 2023, 11:46 PM
Agree, there's usually a steam engine display on at most country shows in southwest wa, I find them fascinating. All fully restored and operating, all mechanical.
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Thursday, 29 June 2023, 06:32 PM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 27 June  2023, 06:44 PMReckon you might be right. They started making them 1952. Theres a number, last two digits are production date.



(https://i.ibb.co/3yKGLdY/F098-B111-6-F7-D-4-AD4-A4-EC-1-E9-E43-A374-F1.jpg) (https://ibb.co/5WZtf4x)

I read somewhere they started the Mk 10 in 1941.  Still researching it.  I've been told to look on the flywheel for a number too.
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: grog on Thursday, 29 June 2023, 06:54 PM
Youre right, 1941.
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Post by: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 29 June 2023, 07:31 PM
My first motorcycle was a 1960 Greeves with a Villiers 2T engine.
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Post by: Rynglieder on Thursday, 06 July 2023, 03:48 AM
I truth I can't say I have wanted one any more than a radiator hose for a MKII Cortina, but it's great that you are keeping it alive .

By coincidence I was doing a search a few weeks ago on manufacturing in Wolverhampton and found myself at this web site.

http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/Engineering/Villiers/Villiers.htm (http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/Engineering/Villiers/Villiers.htm)

Even as a "local" I don't think I had realised what a significant business Villers were. Such a shame that we have lost so much manufacturing from the West Midlands, another was Guy Motors who exported trucks and buses all over the world, particularly "the colonies".
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: hard road on Thursday, 06 July 2023, 06:56 AM
Quote from: Rynglieder on Thursday, 06 July  2023, 03:48 AMI truth I can't say I have wanted one any more than a radiator hose for a MKII Cortina, but it's great that you are keeping it alive .

By coincidence I was doing a search a few weeks ago on manufacturing in Wolverhampton and found myself at this web site.

http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/Engineering/Villiers/Villiers.htm (http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/Engineering/Villiers/Villiers.htm)

Even as a "local" I don't think I had realised what a significant business Villers were. Such a shame that we have lost so much manufacturing from the West Midlands, another was Guy Motors who exported trucks and buses all over the world, particularly "the colonies".

hard to believe the UK ruled the world in manufacturing and lots of other stuff, not any more  :angry:   
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Thursday, 06 July 2023, 05:12 PM
There's quite a few older things that appeal to me, my father still uses his Little Grey Fergie TE20, I bought a Fergie 135 instead of a newer model, a Damascus barrelled Holland and Holland side by side, rolltop desk, my favourite bike here is 43 years old, we've had Series 1,2 and 3 Landrover, a very early Mini, still have Fordson Major tractors in the family, I have a quiet old military bayonet in my tool box etc etc. A lot of my family are rural folk of farmers and having old stuff around is just normal.

Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Thursday, 06 July 2023, 05:20 PM
Quote from: hard road on Thursday, 06 July  2023, 06:56 AM
Quote from: Rynglieder on Thursday, 06 July  2023, 03:48 AMI truth I can't say I have wanted one any more than a radiator hose for a MKII Cortina, but it's great that you are keeping it alive .

By coincidence I was doing a search a few weeks ago on manufacturing in Wolverhampton and found myself at this web site.

http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/Engineering/Villiers/Villiers.htm (http://www.historywebsite.co.uk/Museum/Engineering/Villiers/Villiers.htm)

Even as a "local" I don't think I had realised what a significant business Villers were. Such a shame that we have lost so much manufacturing from the West Midlands, another was Guy Motors who exported trucks and buses all over the world, particularly "the colonies".

hard to believe the UK ruled the world in manufacturing and lots of other stuff, not any more  :angry:   

Absolutely!  A huge amount of the older stuff here came from the UK, Tractors, machinery, Sheffield Steel cutlery, even now lots of bedding and cotton goods are referred to as "Manchester" even though they no longer come from there. I have a brother in law and 2 nephews who work for JCB, they are proud of the stuff they make but I rarely see JCB's here, just Hitachi, Komatsu, Cat etc. Australia is no better, we never had a manufacturing base to rival the UK, but now we have next to nothing, so much stuff imported from China, India, Asia etc.
Title: Re: Maybe just me ?
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 11 July 2023, 09:42 AM
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 27 June  2023, 01:24 PMDo you ever have those days where you wake up thinking "What I need in my life is an antique Villiers powered concrete mixer" ?

No but often think I'd love a Ford 9N, but have nowhere to park it let alone drive it :(