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Mmm crusty, looks worse than mine!
Is that yours @Notty if so how does that happen when you don't take it out of the garage 😉😉
typical of Jap bikes here in the UK, just can't handle our weather :undecided:
Quote from: hard road on Wednesday, 21 June 2023, 10:22 PMtypical of Jap bikes here in the UK, just can't handle our weather :undecided:
My fault riding through the winter - they had been repainted 3 years ago but its all flaking off so I have done a deal with Simon (aka Speedy ) :)
I just had a set fully refurbed by brake masters (powerhouse automotive)
£206 they are now like new 10 day turn around .
Brilliant service too .
Quote from: seth on Thursday, 22 June 2023, 12:12 AMI just had a set fully refurbed by brake masters (powerhouse automotive)
£206 they are now like new 10 day turn around .
Brilliant service too .
That's the firm Speedy used and any brake fluid on them and paint comes off :bugga:
Quote from: Notty on Thursday, 22 June 2023, 01:41 AMQuote from: seth on Thursday, 22 June 2023, 12:12 AMI just had a set fully refurbed by brake masters (powerhouse automotive)
£206 they are now like new 10 day turn around .
Brilliant service too .
That's the firm Speedy used and any brake fluid on them and paint comes off :bugga:
They do warn of that and say to wash off straight away
Quote from: seth on Thursday, 22 June 2023, 04:36 AMThey do warn of that and say to wash off straight away
To be fair Mr Notty I have a spray bottle of soapy water in my shed on permanent stand by..
Whenever I bleed brakes (or swap the calipers) I ALLWAYS have this within a 2 second reach!!
Irrespective of whether the Calipers are OEM or Refurbs I liberally spray around the bleed nipple after Ive finished bleeding (Just in case)..
I do find it surprising that a fluid hasnt been developed thats NOT so visciuos with paint work!
After all, hydraulic oil isnt corrosive !
I used vht caliper paint when i painted mine, bake in oven to cure. Seems to stand brake fluid spills but yeah, spray bottle always close by. Silicone brake fluid non hygroscopic and no paint damage. Have a read on it. DOT5.
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 22 June 2023, 03:18 PMI do find it surprising that a fluid hasnt been developed thats NOT so visciuos with paint work!
DOT5 as said.
Not sure if you need different seals to use it though & they don't mix so you need a totally dry new system.
Exactly correct Hooli. Not sure how youd find out if 14 could use it. Whole system has to be totally free of old stuff. Its a good read, use a lot on old stuff, stops corrosion.
I'd assume a 14 with a fresh clean brake system would be fine grog. I'm basing that on lots of people on the owner's forums using it on freshly restored old Triumphs without issue. They don't use any special hoses or seals. I know a few have flushed the system with lots & lots of DOT5 to get the old DOT4 out & that's worked too.
Personally I think it's a lot of hassle for little gain. The only part of my 14 ever damaged by brake fluid is the rear wheel after one of the bleed nipples leaked on the rear caliper.
I agree Hooli, not something on my list.
I read some place that Dot5 was developed specifically for HD? Dot 4 strips the chrome off a little too easily.
I would agree youd need to start with a new system and have rubber seals resistant to silicone.
My BMW uses light mineral oil in the clutch, 'never' needs changing, apparently....I think 'never' is defined as 'within the warranty period' by BMW.
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 22 June 2023, 06:58 PMI read some place that Dot5 was developed specifically for HD? Dot 4 strips the chrome off a little too easily.
I would agree youd need to start with a new system and have rubber seals resistant to silicone.
My BMW uses light mineral oil in the clutch, 'never' needs changing, apparently....I think 'never' is defined as 'within the warranty period' by BMW.
yeah just like the auto box in their cars that never needs its oil changing !!!! fecking crazy :angry:
Yep, "sealed for life" from an oem means "just past the warranty then your on your own, unless you want us to rob you blind"
I believe a lot of french stuff uses Dot5 too. I'm not sure but I think it might be used in the old shitrun BXs etc that have liquid suspension.
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 22 June 2023, 03:18 PMQuote from: seth on Thursday, 22 June 2023, 04:36 AMThey do warn of that and say to wash off straight away
To be fair Mr Notty I have a spray bottle of soapy water in my shed on permanent stand by..
Whenever I bleed brakes (or swap the calipers) I ALLWAYS have this within a 2 second reach!!
Irrespective of whether the Calipers are OEM or Refurbs I liberally spray around the bleed nipple after Ive finished bleeding (Just in case)..
I do find it surprising that a fluid hasnt been developed thats NOT so visciuos with paint work!
After all, hydraulic oil isnt corrosive !
Absolutely and after I've washed it off, it then gets a liberal dose of brake cleaner to make doubly sure.
A (good) few years back I bought some pipe cleaner sticks and also now cut a piece off one of the cleaners and wrap it around the base of the nipple. It's narrow enough to not get in the way of the nipple spanner, but absorbent enough to catch slight spillage without it getting near the caliper.
Pipe Cleaner (example) (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Newport-Cleaners-Craft-Chenille-Sticks/dp/B01FREWYSO/ref=asc_df_B01FREWYSO?tag=bingshoppinga-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80264450374040&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583863988112347&psc=1)
DOT5 (silicone) ... not to be confused with DOT5.1 (glycol/synthetic)
Problem with it mainly.. .is that its compressible... so not real good for small cylinders with low fluid capacity.
And while it won't absorb water (hygroscopic) any water absorption into the system means you still have bubbles of water in the system that boils off when things get hot... and you end up with zero brakes and you can still get rust/corrosion in the bores.
And never use it in a system with ABS.