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Technically Speaking => Electrics => Topic started by: Snapey on Friday, 31 March 2023, 09:41 AM

Title: Position light
Post by: Snapey on Friday, 31 March 2023, 09:41 AM
Could someone please tell me what the hell a position light is. I needed to take the headlight out & found a connector attached to brown & black/white wires but connected to nothing. The manual tells me it's for a position light ... never heard of one.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: KiwiCol on Friday, 31 March 2023, 10:07 AM
Pete, that's the wee light bulb in the headlight. (Some headlights don't actually have that fitting there though - Attachment says Aussie don't get that bit of the 14)  From memory it's a bayonet bulb about 3w, it comes on when you turn the key back past off / lock.

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I found mine by accident on first day I had a 14.  Turned the key off & went into the ferry building, looked out & saw there was a light going in the headlight!!  & I had they keys! 

Think of it as a position light as used on truck n trailers parked on the road at night, small light just to say here I am.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Snapey on Friday, 31 March 2023, 11:27 AM
Thanks Col. I thought it was there for that reason but when there was nothing on the headlight to plug in to it had me guessing.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 31 March 2023, 05:47 PM
It'll power up with the bike on too, as they are normally the same circuit as the backlight.  You'll see us Brits call it a sidelight sometimes too.

Could be useful as a trigger feed for a relay running accessories on later bikes, I say later as it'd turn off with the lights on a K2.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Tally on Saturday, 01 April 2023, 12:38 AM
Ive Always known it as a parking light,it's used when you park somewhere with poor lighting to illuminate your bikes presence.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Hooli on Saturday, 01 April 2023, 12:44 AM
Aye, like the lights you hung on the side windows of cars years ago - hence some call it a side light.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: grog on Saturday, 01 April 2023, 05:31 PM
My bike had no park light. Came home in semi darkness one night, didnt need headlight to see but needed it for others to see me. Low beam had blown, realised i mustve been nearly invisible. Indent was in headlight shell, drilled it out and fitted park light. A bit of backup if it ever happens again.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: seth on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 06:00 AM
If you ever find your bike without lights just put on an indicator(kerb side best) as at least then youll be seen till you can get safe and fix it
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: KiwiCol on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 06:08 AM
Quote from: seth on Sunday, 02 April  2023, 06:00 AMIf you ever find your bike without lights just put on an indicator(kerb side best) as at least then youll be seen till you can get safe and fix it

Why not the hazards? 
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 12:59 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Sunday, 02 April  2023, 06:08 AM
Quote from: seth on Sunday, 02 April  2023, 06:00 AMIf you ever find your bike without lights just put on an indicator(kerb side best) as at least then youll be seen till you can get safe and fix it

Why not the hazards? 
didn't know the 1400 has hazard lights?
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: KiwiCol on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 03:17 PM
NZ ones do Eric.

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Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 03:27 PM
Every day is a school day
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: grog on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 04:13 PM
Mine has hazzard lites but only work with key on, is that normal? Stupid idea if so.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Hooli on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 06:35 PM
Proper 14s, don't have hazard lights, only K3 onwards do.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: grog on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 07:06 PM
I like all 14,none of that stuff worries me, not that i use the hazzard lights.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Mick_J on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 07:17 PM
Quote from: grog on Sunday, 02 April  2023, 04:13 PMMine has hazzard lites but only work with key on, is that normal? Stupid idea if so.

Yes, that seems to be how some bikes are, so you stop at an accident to help someone and leave your hazards on and some knobnosher steals your bike.  My old BMW had them but you could turn the key and take it out while the hazards did their job, don't know if my current one does it, I will test it out.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Sunday, 02 April 2023, 09:13 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Sunday, 02 April  2023, 06:35 PMProper 14s, don't have hazard lights, only K3 onwards do.
mines a Dec 02 built K3 model, doesn't have hazard lights,perhaps just a thing for the UK Market then? I do have the park light connector in the headlight bowl, it's just zip tied to the rest of the loom.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Hooli on Monday, 03 April 2023, 07:24 AM
I think it was an EU rule about lights always on
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Tally on Tuesday, 04 April 2023, 04:28 AM
Hazard lights do work with the key out. I tried it and found that in park/position light , you take the key out, switch on your hazards and they will come on. I was thinking about it and thought Suzuki wouldn't have made a blunder like you have to have your ignition on to operate hazards. Every days a school day.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 04 April 2023, 06:56 AM
Tally, thought thats how they prob work. My key wont turn to that park position, job for another day.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 04 April 2023, 07:39 AM
On my K7, if you put the hazards on whilst the engine was still running and then switched the engine off and took the key out the hazards would keep going. You didn't need to have the key in the parking light position.

Same is true of my ex Triumph and now my BMW, they work exactly the same as above.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 04 April 2023, 07:44 AM
Thanks Barmy, will try that when i get home.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 04 April 2023, 07:59 AM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 04 April  2023, 07:39 AMOn my K7, if you put the hazards on whilst the engine was still running and then switched the engine off and took the key out the hazards would keep going. You didn't need to have the key in the parking light position.

Same is true of my ex Triumph and now my BMW, they work exactly the same as above.

Same as my HD and you have to turn the ignition back on to turn them off if you've done that too.
As I found out one day when I hit them rather than the off switch they are alongside.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 04 April 2023, 06:10 PM
Works but still a dumb idea. If your motor dies, no hazards. Should be like every car, just turn on whenever. No biggie but just stupid.
Title: Re: Position light
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 04 April 2023, 06:57 PM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 04 April  2023, 06:10 PMWorks but still a dumb idea. If your motor dies, no hazards. Should be like every car, just turn on whenever. No biggie but just stupid.

Until some dickhead finds it funny to turn them on when you're parked & you come back to a flat battery. Can't do that to a car, normally.