OK, call me a ludite but if this is what bikes will become, bio machinery, with deep learning learning processors, balance control, 30 odd cameras etc then I'd quit riding lol
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Just a load of shit. Not interested i this crap.
600Nm torque to the rear wheel? There's Ute's that tow 3500kg trailers with less torque than that.
It's not my future.
Same issue I always have, not enough carrying capacity, minimal pillion features. All the techno stuff I have no problem with, the more the better. Automatically recording footage of hoolaginism and dropping it on social media could be concerning though.
Not in our lifetimes thankfully 🙏🙏🙏
Quote from: GSXKING on Wednesday, 09 November 2022, 09:52 AM
Not in our lifetimes thankfully 🙏🙏🙏
Agreed.
Same as 'Lecky cars. I'd be very surprised if I get to see any impact in rural Australia in my lifetime.
In the motoring press there's regular features about 'Lecky Utes, how several brands are doing them, how they are going to be the next big thing (the top selling vehicles in the USA, Australia etc are Utes).
Then I say my basic bare bones Hilux has a tray over 2.5m long that takes two pallets or two IBC's, will carry over 1 tonne, has a range that can exceed 500k's and brand new costs around $25k, which 'Lecky ute is going to replace it ? ... without even getting into the total lack of charging points and time.
Quote from: frenchgixxer on Tuesday, 08 November 2022, 07:49 PM
OK, call me a ludite but if this is what bikes will become, bio machinery, with deep learning learning processors, balance control, 30 odd cameras etc then I'd quit riding lol
Remember Tomorrow's World and all that type of shows ?
Where's my Hover Car, 3 course meal in a pill and trip to the moon etc etc.
I take predictions and vehicle ones in particular with a large pinch of salt.
Watch the dateline for the end of petrol engine production fall on its face and get changed. Tree Huggers and Eco Warriors are away with the fairy's. They might have good intentions but they can't back them up with an alternative.
A mate is currently on a copper mine in Mongolia. Huge eco disaster, species serious at risk, lots of pollution, water supply getting used up well beyond rainfall replacement, ruining the place.... all to feed the fast growing markets over the border in China. But it's all good, because the 'Lecky cars and bikes are nice and green.
Oh I hope you're right. I'd love to see the leccy car farce fall flat on its face. The amount of real environmental damage done in the name of an imaginary climate crisis is unbelievable.
Quote from: Hooli on Wednesday, 09 November 2022, 11:18 AM
Oh I hope you're right. I'd love to see the leccy car farce fall flat on its face. The amount of real environmental damage done in the name of an imaginary climate crisis is unbelievable.
Spot on Hooli !
It's not a future I would like to be in, eating worms and grass, owning nothing, can't drive or ride outside your own town, nowhere to park (if you do escape), no swearing, no looking at fitt chicks and all under sheria law. Fuck it kill me now.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 09 November 2022, 03:32 AM
600Nm torque to the rear wheel? There's Ute's that tow 3500kg trailers with less torque than that.
There was a lot of fuss made over the Ford F150 Lightning. In many respects it is a good electric ute, a lot of advantages and great features...
BUT
It turns out its really only suitable for around town, and despite theoretically being able to tow heaps, the range goes down to sweet fuck all (as in REALLY low) when a trailer is actually towed.
So yeah it'll take a while...
But the F150 lightning has a huge front 'boot' where you can store a petrol gennie to charge it....
Oh, ah, i see the problem....
:facepalm:
Elon Musk has been promoting his EV Primemover with 1,000,000 miles warranties WTF 😜😜😜
5RRmepp7i5g
We had an all electric truck at work.
The guys were prepping it for a show.
They put the tipper body up and pressure cleaned it, as with all trucks going through the workshop.
I think it sat there for a couple of days until they could fly some tech guys in from down South to try and figure why everything was frozen and locked up.
We weren't very popular after that.
Yeah well 1.000.000 mile warranty will cover not much.
Given the utter disaster all electric cars have been to date when it comes to towing, I'd be interested to see just how useless this truck will be.
Oh and I can sure see all the big truck stops here (where drivers overnight) putting in 40-50 chargers.
Yeah NOT.
Quote from: VladTepes on Friday, 11 November 2022, 11:01 AM
Yeah well 1.000.000 mile warranty will cover not much.
Given the utter disaster all electric cars have been to date when it comes to towing, I'd be interested to see just how useless this truck will be.
Oh and I can sure see all the big truck stops here (where drivers overnight) putting in 40-50 chargers.
Yeah NOT.
And then the coal or gas fired power station that has to be built to run those chargers, ah...I think not.
Was listening to a fella talking on the radio. He reckons in NZ we do not have the transmisson capacity to service the governments EV target. Many houses do not have wiring suitable for charging EV's. We are also well short of charging stations.
Sales of the trendy EVs seem to be driven by car dealers wanting to make a sale.
I have a 2001 3L diesel Hiace and a 3.2L Ranger ute Diesel is now more expensive than petrol if you include the RUCs we pay. (Road user charges) There is no road tax on EV's.......yet !!
Yeah Diesel is about 20c a litre more than petrol here too. Bloody ridiculous, especially a diesel is ah earlier distillate as compared with petrol so it's (theoretically) less expensive to extract.
I know the price is affected by the need for heating oil in the northern hemisphere (especially these days) BUT that doesn't explain the consistent price differential.
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Friday, 11 November 2022, 02:34 PM
Was listening to a fella talking on the radio. He reckons in NZ we do not have the transmisson capacity to service the governments EV target. Many houses do not have wiring suitable for charging EV's. We are also well short of charging stations.
Sales of the trendy EVs seem to be driven by car dealers wanting to make a sale.
I have a 2001 3L diesel Hiace and a 3.2L Ranger ute Diesel is now more expensive than petrol if you include the RUCs we pay. (Road user charges) There is no road tax on EV's.......yet !!
I ordered a new petrol engined vehicle in June this year, for that same reason, diesel is going out / too dear. It's a MHEV, so i thought awesome, I can save some money via the ev rebate. Turns out it's not in the scheme because a) it's value is too high and b) it's a MHEV and not a full EV or Hybrid.
What a load of rubbish, the ev scheme seems geared to soy latte drinking, no-sock wearing hipster wankers with a personalised plated Tesla that only do 50km a week in in er city driving, filling up the roads their wanky 'Green' p.o.s. as they drive to their next climate change protest.
I hate EVs, it's just shifting the problem elsewhere, not to mention the extra hard to process rubbish they create.