Hi all,
As you may know I am about to acquire another 1400..
My previous bike (Triumph Explorer 1200) used fully synthetic oil..
I know the consensus on here is that the 1400 uses a semi synthetic oil..
But I have 5 litres of this which I bought a while back...
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-812-silkolene-pro-4-10w-40-xp-ester-full-synthetic-4t-bike-engine-oil.aspx
Is there any reason I couldnt use it in the 1400 ?
S
Funnily enough I can hear that can of worms opening from here 🙀🙀🙀
I gather our clutches don't like fully synthetic ?
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Wednesday, 24 August 2022, 12:52 PM
Hi all,
As you may know I am about to acquire another 1400..
My previous bike (Triumph Explorer 1200) used fully synthetic oil..
I know the consensus on here is that the 1400 uses a semi synthetic oil..
But I have 5 litres of this which I bought a while back...
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-812-silkolene-pro-4-10w-40-xp-ester-full-synthetic-4t-bike-engine-oil.aspx
Is there any reason I couldnt use it in the 1400 ?
S
It's JASO MA2 grade oil. It will work in 14. IMO.
Dave Barmy used to use Silkolene from memory, what grade though is another question.
@Andre is the man for details on this subject.
A good few stories of damaged/hardened oil deals from using fully synthetic oil.
I guess for 1 oil change your be ok but then go back to the right stuff .
:cheers:
Quote from: seth on Wednesday, 24 August 2022, 04:13 PM
A good few stories of damaged/hardened oil deals from using fully synthetic oil.
I guess for 1 oil change your be ok but then go back to the right stuff .
:cheers:
Thanks Seth..
I am thinking I will buy the Silkolene Semi and mix it 50/50 with that..
Then it would be a 1/4 fully Synthetic..
My mates whos bikes can use fully synthetic are too precious about taking their bikes to a dealer for servicing to "risk" buying the oil off me, even at a discounted price !
Speedy, i wouldnt mix it, waste of money, just use it, next service use semi. Just my opinion only.
I used a fully synthetic in my bike about 12 years ago (Cos I had some, same as you), didn't do any harm, bike still runs fine.
@Speedy1959 I use this oil and no problems with it. But then, never opened up the engine. Here in my hot part of the world I use 10W40. But concerning prices of oil stuff right now, guess next time I´ll go for a cheaper fully syn; as long as it´s JASO MA2.
Give it a try as you have it. Bit of clutch slip would be the worst that MAY happen?
Hello Speedy. I used fully synthetic in your old bike a few thousand miles ago. No adverse effects noticed since. Certainly no clutch slip!
Mal
What ever you decide to go with, just remember when you next do an oil change you're leaving a noticeable amount of the old stuff still in and around the motor and oil cooler.
;)
From memory about 1.2ltr is left per oil change.
Quote from: Mal on Friday, 09 September 2022, 08:42 AM
Hello Speedy. I used fully synthetic in your old bike a few thousand miles ago. No adverse effects noticed since. Certainly no clutch slip!
Mal
Hi Malcolm
I must admit it doesnt really make sense that these engines are so precious about modern oils...
On past bikes I have changed oil early due to (in my opinion) the over stretched changed intervals)..
10,000 miles on the Triumph.. I did it every 5,000.
So a 4,000 mile interval doesnt bother me really.
You are keeping Sophie very well. She looked very good last time I saw her.
S
I photoshopped these up for the Bandit Forum and they still get used quite a lot :imrgreen: :rofl2:
Not getting involved, i change my oil Synnex 3000, every 5th ks. Costs around $35 with filter, no brainer i reckon. No tools required except filter remover cap,Ratchet and extension, drain valve fitted. Usally let it drain 4 hours, arrive at work, do the rest at lunch time.
OIL , OIL , OIL ,,
Just saying, I Bought my K5 about a year ago. The Previos owner was using Motul 5100 10w-40 Semi Synthetic Oil in the Motor.
After reading lots of forums on and about the GSX1400, I noticed that a lot of GSX1400 owners used Gulf Western SYN-X 3000 10W-40 Semi-Synthetic Oil with good results and it is 1/2 the cost of Motul Oil.
They also said the Golf Western Semi Oil made the gear changes a bit smoother.
So last Oil change, I also changed my Bike to Gulf Western 10w-40 Semi-Synthetic Oil, which was 5000 klms ago.
I did NOT notice any smoother gear shift using the Gulf Western Semi Synthetic at all.
Anyway today I bought from Supercheap 4 x 5-liter containers of Gulf Western SYN-X 3000 10w-40 because it was selling for under $30 for 5lts.
BUT
What I did not notice, was that the SYN-X 3000 I bought today was in fact "Fully Synthetic" with Zinc enhanced. NOT Semi
So
2 hours ago I changed my Oil filter and put in the new 10w-40 SYN-X 3000 "Fully Synthetic" Zinc enhanced Oil into my K5 and took the Bike for a 100 k ride. Yahoo.
I am VERY PLEASED to report that this Gulf Western SYH-X 3000 "Full Synthetic" 10w-40 zinc-enhanced Oil seems great in every way.
My Bike Motor now seems a lot SMOOOOTHER and very Quite
and also the Gear Change is now very smooth. It is miles smoother than it was before. It is not notchy anymore, ""Happy Days""
Web says syn-x 3000 10w40 is 'synthetic', reading the blurb on this grade, its a semi synthetic, "...formulated using a combination of synthetic and premium hydrotreated mineral base oils..." I guess they get away with calling synthetic as only part of the oil is.
The Syn-x 5000 5w40 is listed as full synthetic.
So imho syn-x 3000 10w40 is not a full synthetic oil.....
Anyway, glad you feel it's made a difference Happy motoring.
Doing the oil and filter over the weekend. Another dose of Gulf Western Syn-x 3000 been using it for a while now. Did'nt like the Motul 5100 even tried Motul 300V that was even worse.
Play on words. Still blended with mineral oil so semi. Ill find out next week if recipe has changed. Have a link to the bloke that is guru of their products.
It might be just a bit more extra added Zinc in this new Gulf Western SYN-X 3000 Oil, that's sold in this new GOLD container.
The old GULF WESTERN Syn-x 3000 "Semi Synthetic" 10w-40 that I bought and used in the Bike last time, is in a Grey container with Semi written on it , see attached Photo
BUT
there is one thing 4 sure, it is like a new Bike to ride as far as Gear Changing goes.
She is now changing Gears without clunking and binding sometimes,,, it is now more like my 2 x FJ1200 Yamaha Bikes, Smooth