Story in our local paper about a guy who bought a 4yr old E class hybrid Merc for £27k 4yrs ago
He's just been told battery's kaput.
Merc quoted £15k +fitting.
More than the car is worth!!!
Hybrids don't seem to make a lot of sense. Why create a vehicle that has two major areas that can go wrong?
Buy a 2022 vehicle with all the electronic bits and gadgetry - what could go wrong in ten years time?
I think that's why we love our 1400s.
Be interesting to find out what the cost of battery replacement will be on electric bikes .. in future years, if any one ends up looking at buying an electric vehicle, you will need to know how much life is left in the battery.. like what is recorded on the iPhone.. then factor in how long you think you might keep the vehicle.. might not be worth buying, or need to factor in replacement cost.
But then, as I mentioned to a mate last night, talking modern bikes. No such thing as normal dare I say "Old School" gauges any more. They are all using mini ipad style screens. Considering that some bikes have headlights that would cost well over 1k for replacement (new), I would be interested to see how much one of the new style electronic dashboards would cost to replace, should something go wrong.. in years to come, I think the same situation.. cost more to replace a part than what the bike is really worth. no wonder bikes get written off after a simple fall off the side stand these days..
:lol:
Just went to an online parts for Kawasaki and tried to find a price for the TFT display..
It lists in in the parts fiche... price? "Call Us"
https://bluecitymotorcycles.com.au/parts?aribrand=KUS#/Kawasaki_Motorcycle/ZX1002KMFNN_Ninja_1000SX_(2021)/Meter(s)/fb72584d-a938-4652-bd2f-2a472b125b12/0d88eaf5-edca-4683-9357-f14695de63f5/y
All these E vehicles are a con :whatever:
No emissions my arse :jack: if you charge it using mainstream power those are emissions
To make these ridiculously expensive to replace batteries there is toxic forever emissions it's all a bloody con job.
Unfortunately lots of rich people are getting richer from the lies 🧐
RANT OVER 👍
I couldn't agree more, Chris, just a con. The other one, I find hypocritical is that Tesla is saying their e vehicles are saving the environment, whilst at the same time they are sending all these satelittes into low orbit for their Sky mesh internet, just adding more and more junk into the near earth space,not to mention the pollution from every launch. Saving the environment my ass.
The animated film WALLE is a "futurementary" of where we are going if we don't do something about these "green companies"
Not a battery vehicle fan at all but a test drive in Tesla is awesome. So bloody quick. Will look up comparison times to 14. Off topic but similar, Tesla house batt is $17k, life expectancy 10-12 yrs, disposal fee around $6k. I average around $600 per yr electricity bill, 12 yrs at $7200. Why bother.
Some Teslas with issues, mechanical or collision are sent to Australia for repair. Probably on an electric boat ???
Col, most Tesla parts are unique to them. They wont supply parts, needs to go to dealer, even if its just a globe. Robbers.
I don't understand the point of hybrids or leccy cars. Even if climate change was real, using their own CO2 lies proves that proper engines are better.
That's before start on the strip mining etc etc
I've said it before..Hybrid/electric cars will NOT save the planet. I for one would never consider buying one.
I just got new petrol whipper snipper, couldve got a battery one. That defines my thinking.
Yep , take the V8 out of my dead cold hands, no sound from forward propulsion is just not natural!
Quote from: grog on Saturday, 29 January 2022, 06:39 PM
I just got new petrol whipper snipper, couldve got a battery one. That defines my thinking.
Whipper snipper? Strimmer I assume? Yes, Ive got a petrol whipper snipper too :onya: :imrgreen:
Quote from: horse on Saturday, 29 January 2022, 06:44 PM
Yep , take the V8 out of my dead cold hands, no sound from forward propulsion is just not natural!
Aye, it's taken me decades to own a supercharged V8, I'm never letting it go.
My view is "horses for courses". No pun intended.
I've just taken delivery of a turbo diesel vehicle which I will use for long distance outback touring. Range is over 1000kms per tank.
My brother lives 11km outside of a large rural Australian city. He has a Landrover and a Tesla long range model. His 18 solar panels and Tesla Powerwall provide the majority of his power needs while he is still connected to the grid.
His Tesla is given priority charge from his solar system. It's a smart setup and it is no coincidence he's a retired electrical engineer.
I've driven the Tesla in a built up area and the performance is amazing. If you like the torque of the 1400 then The Tesla has it in spades but without a whisper of sound or soul.
It felt like driving a computer on wheels with silent rocket like performance.
An amazing performance machine but if you grew up with V8s and smoking tyres there's no character or personality to relate to.
The large majority of Teslas are charged by baseload power. Mostly coal fired in this country.
However the economic reality is that this will change in the future, probably not completely for a significant period of time given the availability of high quality coal.
Where ever you sit on this issue, sit back, observe and FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Whether you are a climate sceptic or not the reality is that the big investors are moving away from coal fired power in Australia and are looking at the financial opportunities in renewables.
My two bobs worth. Here's your opportunity to fire back.
Found it :imrgreen:
You just couldn't make it up really :rofl2:
Read a story recently about a fella that parked his diesel ute in a charging bay. Plugged in to the station and chucked the other end under his bonnet.
Parking spaces are not easy to find :rofl2:
I read an article a while back indicating that there are fields of E cars in France that will not be repaired - replacement batteries cost more that the cars are worth!
E-Car is a feel good vehicle that eventually dies and then cause more angst for the greenies regardless of the footprint to make them!
So true Stan :onya:
Computers, iPads, smart phones, vehicles, tyres all create a massive volume of waste and EVs will add to all this problem unless there is a reclaim and recycle operation.
Who will want a 10 year old second hand EV with outdated electronics?
We risk drowning out n our own prosperity.
Yeah Johno, so much rubbish. Nothing gets fixed, just toss it.
Quote from: Globalrider on Sunday, 30 January 2022, 06:12 AM
I read an article a while back indicating that there are fields of E cars in France that will not be repaired - replacement batteries cost more that the cars are worth!
E-Car is a feel good vehicle that eventually dies and then cause more angst for the greenies regardless of the footprint to make them!
I saw the picures of this as well, but it seems that they were not there due to faulty batteries. That's a shame in a way as it was good ammunition to use in the argument against electric cars.
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-electric-cars-france-idUSL2N2N60XA