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Technically Speaking => Brakes => Topic started by: Noddy on Monday, 08 November 2021, 05:27 AM

Title: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Noddy on Monday, 08 November 2021, 05:27 AM
Just fitted a pair of new discs and calliper refurb and it became very apparent that there should be a more convenient way of lifting the front end with a single trolly jack and a lot less brain power.
While the wheel was out and my back to the sun I looked carefully where the bike could be jacked using a single point while avoiding the exhaust down pipes and I have thought that something like this could work in mild steel.

My big unknown is some advice on the thickness of the jacking plate which I have nominally drawn at 5mm and considering using 'U' section channelling instead of the 'V' section shown.

Any thoughts welcome.

Thanks
Noddy
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Will14 on Monday, 08 November 2021, 06:37 AM
I just usually use a short length of flat timber approx 6" wide x 1" thick & about 24" long across the bottom of the headers and a small trolley jack, it works fine & the bike is quite stable, although your idea could well be a better option
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Hooli on Monday, 08 November 2021, 07:45 AM
I shove it to the side & kick an axle stand under each frame tube. Have a demo from a visiting (slower) black 14.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Hooli on Monday, 08 November 2021, 07:45 AM
Mind you as you've still got the centre stand, just let two breezeblocks ride pillion & you can strip the front end off easily.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: SpongeBob on Monday, 08 November 2021, 08:33 PM
I use this for years: very simple. Easily catches frame tubes while clearing exhaust pipes, near the front to work on front end, or more towards the rear to work on the swingarm/shocks for instance. And can be reliably stay several days safely as opposed to hydraulic jacks that should be secured :-)
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 09 November 2021, 04:23 AM
20mm ply and scissor jack. Was like that for three days👍
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 09 November 2021, 09:42 AM
It's a challenge without a centre stand for sure.

I like  @SpongeBob 's solution. Never seen one of those for sale anywhere though.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Tuesday, 09 November 2021, 10:10 AM
Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 09 November  2021, 09:42 AM
It's a challenge without a centre stand for sure.

I like  @SpongeBob 's solution. Never seen one of those for sale anywhere though.

Try this one, same idea, different brand.  I'm tempted to get one myself.  https://www.repco.com.au/en/tools-equipment/garage-tools-equipment/jacks/tradequip-500kg-motorcycle-lifter-support-stand-2104t/p/A5489189?rgfeed=true&cid=google-shopping&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&region_id=100472&gclid=Cj0KCQiAsqOMBhDFARIsAFBTN3eV_lZCxyPbso3nCZEN_X2J4xq9amNgS_4_rFiqD77oAVgwB5WVL5MaAmTJEALw_wcB
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 09 November 2021, 01:09 PM
I just ordered Repco stand. $130 with car club discount. Only 2 left in Oz, both in WA.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Mick_J on Tuesday, 09 November 2021, 07:10 PM
Quote from: SpongeBob on Monday, 08 November  2021, 08:33 PM
I use this for years: very simple. Easily catches frame tubes while clearing exhaust pipes, near the front to work on front end, or more towards the rear to work on the swingarm/shocks for instance. And can be reliably stay several days safely as opposed to hydraulic jacks that should be secured :-)

That's what I use, works really well.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 09 November 2021, 07:37 PM
mjgt, tradequip i ordered looks exact similar. Should make easier than jack n centrestand, not thats ever been a problem. Upgrade is good🤞🏻
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 10 November 2021, 12:29 PM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 09 November  2021, 01:09 PM
I just ordered Repco stand. $130 with car club discount. Only 2 left in Oz, both in WA.

+$10 delivery? How did you know only 2 left?
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 10 November 2021, 02:45 PM
Repco person saw stock on computer, it arrived today.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 10 November 2021, 05:49 PM
So lift looks a very strong well built unit. For me will be just to get front up. You blokes with no centrestand will work for both ends. 👍
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Wednesday, 10 November 2021, 07:12 PM
Ordered mine today from my local repco here in WA, click and collect, $132 now I can lift the front a bit safer rather than my bit of shaped hardwood under the sump and a trolley jack.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 10 November 2021, 07:21 PM
Will work perfectly Eric, i screwed them down to $127. Originaly over $300. Did you ever get helmet lock tab?Looking back, thinking, this will only lift front or rear, maybe i shouldve got a whole bike lift. Will next time. Would like whole bike a metre off ground.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 11 November 2021, 08:30 AM
grog - example of whole bike lift you mean?

The 'close to affordable' ones I've seen don't allow wheels to be removed which kind of defeats half the purpose.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 11 November 2021, 10:23 AM
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 10 November  2021, 07:21 PM
Will work perfectly Eric, i screwed them down to $127. Originaly over $300. Did you ever get helmet lock tab?Looking back, thinking, this will only lift front or rear, maybe i shouldve got a whole bike lift. Will next time. Would like whole bike a metre off ground.
Yes, thanks mate, got the tab, forgot all about that.  Looking forward to getting this lift.  Good thing is you can also bolt these to a full bike lift so you can work at normal height and still raise the front wheel off the deck.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Saturday, 13 November 2021, 02:56 PM
Picked up the lift yesterday.  Match made in heaven.  Note the ratchet and socket is mine, M22 is the size
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Noddy on Sunday, 14 November 2021, 12:30 AM
Great to see it in action. Now were all wiser thanks to the world like minded members. :computer_type:

A couple of questions when you have time..How close are the screw 'frame lifters' to the end of their thread and the clearance between exhausts and platform?

Thanks
Noddy
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Sunday, 14 November 2021, 11:21 PM
Quote from: Noddy on Sunday, 14 November  2021, 12:30 AM
Great to see it in action. Now were all wiser thanks to the world like minded members. :computer_type:

A couple of questions when you have time..How close are the screw 'frame lifters' to the end of their thread and the clearance between exhausts and platform?

Thanks
Noddy

Hey Noddy, I checked today, I have 4 threads left in the verticals, and around 20mm clear to the exhaust.  So this can be lowered a bit more.

. Note:  mine's a 4 into 1 akra with the springs holding the 2 into 1 collectors sitting underneath.

Im going to fit two locknuts M22 coarse pitch on the uprights but even without them the bike was super stable.  Haven't tried it without the rearstand but I think that would work well too.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: Noddy on Monday, 15 November 2021, 09:08 AM
Cheers buddy
A great help so I'll be saving up for one of these now although I have fitted the new discs and pads. Thanks also to EBC and ProBolt.

Noddy
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: grog on Monday, 15 November 2021, 02:09 PM
1st try with lift. All very easy, will fine tune next couple of uses.
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: GSXKING on Monday, 22 November 2021, 08:24 PM
try a 2 by 4 under the centre stand as well, plenty of clearance then  :onya:

I have to because of my lifter kit.  :doh:
Title: Re: Front brake-wheel work.
Post by: DP1400 on Tuesday, 23 November 2021, 06:29 AM
Totally agree Chris, never had a problem with this method assuming bike has centre stand. Mine hasn`t, so I use a combination of a bottle jack & two axle stands, ensuring that all three have rubber blocks fitted to act as dampers. There is a small area beneath the sump for the Jack. Pump up. Slide in the axle stands either side beneath the main frame members, drop the jack. Job done, safe as houses. To be on the safe side, its a two-man job to keep the bike balanced while the jack takes the initial weight prior to lowering onto the axle stands.