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Title: What's under your seat?
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 07:50 AM
So we all know that there is copious space available under the seat of a GSX1400

My question to your therefore is.......What's under your seat?

(I'll start with nothing as there is absolutely no space under the seat of a BMW R1250GS!!!! But don't let that stop you GSX1400 owners LOL)
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: seth on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 07:54 AM
I have loads under my seat
A large toolkit mainly used for fixing other bikes .
A large chain and lock .
Airbed pump.
Spare set of levers.
Tyreweld.
And a puncture repair kit .
Think that's all .
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Snapey on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 08:21 AM
Before I sold the 14 I had spare levers, a compressor, multi meter, rain gear, puncture repair kit, tool kit, Swiss army knife, occy straps, duct tape and a folder containing a note pad, owners manual, a couple of pens and give away laminated paper clip test & result info.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 11:34 AM
Standard tool kit, tyre repair kit, cig lighter style plug hooked up to battery.
That's about it.

But my top box stays on my bike most of the time and I keep other stuff in there - first aid kit and tourniquet, jacket liner etc.

Quote from: Snapey on Tuesday, 05 October  2021, 08:21 AM
and give away laminated paper clip test & result info.

Wouldn't be much good for your own bike under there - cant get to underseat without key and need bike to stay on so codes don't clear...
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: mlivkovich on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 03:12 PM
Tool kit, spare levers, first aid kit, puncture repair kit, disc lock
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Snapey on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 03:55 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 05 October  2021, 11:34 AM

Quote from: Snapey on Tuesday, 05 October  2021, 08:21 AM
and give away laminated paper clip test & result info.

Wouldn't be much good for your own bike under there - cant get to underseat without key and need bike to stay on so codes don't clear...

Michael they're just two laminated sheets about 120 x 100 with info on locating the plug for the paper clip test, an explanation of the fault code and a paper clip.
I had the FI light come on when 75k in to a weekend away so I did the test & got a C28 but I had no idea what that was so headed home. If I had info on the C28 I could have kept going. I swore that wouldn't happen again so I printed and laminated the relevant info and now hand them out to any 1400 riders I see on my travels.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Snapey on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 04:12 PM
Take the seat off and remove the battery tray top. In there next to the battery are three or so
multiconnectors. One of them's a bigger black one ( you don't want that ), one of them's a
smaller white one ( That's the one ). The white one you'll notice has two cables going to it. A
white / red one and a black / white one. The black / white one is an earth. By careful observation
one can deduce which of the connector terminals these two cables go to. Then take a paperclip /
hairclip / sandwich bag tie / any other suitable conductor and short across the two terminals. Do
this while the ignition is on or running and the bike will display an error code in the LCD
display in the speedo. c00 is no faults found whereas c34 is an injector problem with number 3
cylinder. All the error codes are listed in the factory manual. This little short will save you
purchasing Suzuki special tool 09930-82710 The Mode Select Switch. It effectively puts the
bike from 'User' mode into 'Dealer' mode.

CODE        MALFUNCTION PART                                    REMARKS

c00    None                                                                        No defective part
c11    Camshaft position sensor (CMPS)
c12    Crankshaft position sensor (CKPS)                Pick-up coil signal, signal generator
c13    Intake air pressure sensor (IAPS)
c14    Throttle position sensor (TPS)
c15    Engine oil temp. sensor (EOTS)
c21    Intake air temp. sensor (IATS)
c22    Atmospheric pressure sensor (APS)
c23    Tip over sensor (TOS)
c24    Ignition signal #1, #4 (IG coil #1, #4)              For #1 & 4 cylinders
c25    Ignition signal #2, #3 (IG coil #2, #3)                For #2 & 3 cylinders
c28    Secondary throttle valve actuator (STVA) *3
c29    Secondary throttle position sensor (STPS)
c31    Gear position signal (GP switch)
c32    Injector signal #1 (FI #1)                    For #1 cylinder
c33    Injector signal #2 (FI #2)                    For #2 cylinder
c34    Injector signal #3 (FI #3)                    For #3 cylinder
c35    Injector signal #4 (FI #4)                    For #4 cylinder
c41    Fuel pump control system (FP control system)          Fuel pump, Fuel pump relay
c42    Ignition switch signal (IG switch signal)                 Anti-theft

In the LCD (DISPLAY) panel, the malfunction code is indicated from small code to
large code. *3
When the secondary throttle valve actuator and secondary throttle position sensor
signals are not sent to ECM. In this case, c29 is indicated.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Snapey on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 04:15 PM
The other bit won't copy but it's in the manual.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 05:53 PM
Snapey, any spare sheets left? Wouldnt mind one. Can send bucks for postage etc. Thanks.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 06:33 PM
Under my seat, without looking. Rain over jacket, rain pants, spare gloves, headlight globe, first aid kit, socket set, allen keys, fuses, cable ties, original tool kit, puncture plugs, air pump. Electrical connecters. Tie wire. Fuel pump relay. Axle nut front tool, 36 mm socket for rear. Visor clean spray, microfibre towel, hand cleaner, old skool rag. Spare sox, two plastic garbage bags, fit over boots for wet days. Still have space. 😂
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Mick_J on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 06:43 PM
Standard tool kit
Puncture repair kit
Cargo net
Side stand puck
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 06:53 PM
Thanks mjgt, forgot the sidestand thingo.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Tally on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 07:36 PM
Standard tool kit with additional tools ,front axle nut,disc lock,Swiss army knife, 10 mm socket on screwdriver type attachment for battery,tape measure(rear wheel alignment), cable ties, ratchet spanner for front axle nut,puncture repair kit, spare sump plug, original flasher relay and a tyre inflator and still room left for more stuff. :onya:
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 07:39 PM
Small tub of glucose powder, wide insulation tape, cable ties, led torch, tyre gauge and air hose fitting, allen keys, few small spanners & couple of screwdrivers, headlight bulb, tiny bottle chain lube, visor spray, end of a roll of kitchen towel, half bog roll, soft backpack, first aid kit, factory toolkit, couple of rags, 2 cable locks, windproof inner gloves, tampons  :facepalm:
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 05 October 2021, 09:18 PM
Currently a lawnmower, petrol chainsaw, large box of tools & loads of other stuff.

Can you tell the seat isn't on the bike?  :whistling:
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Globalrider on Wednesday, 06 October 2021, 06:52 AM
Didn't quite fit!! but wouldn't have needed it anyway!
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 06 October 2021, 11:05 AM
Quote from: mjgt on Tuesday, 05 October  2021, 06:43 PM
Side stand puck

You mean square piece of old timber, yeah ?!  :D
That's what mine is :)

Quote from: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 05 October  2021, 07:39 PM
half bog roll,

aka Covid era negotiable currency
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 06 October 2021, 11:10 AM
For those who in this thread have posted they have other tools, not included in or instead of the stock tool kit would you please head over here and let us know.   https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=2756.0

So to clarify the thread linked above is for TOOLS only :)



Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Wednesday, 06 October 2021, 06:27 PM
Std suzuki tool kit, front disc lock and nought else
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 07 October 2021, 02:01 AM
Cable ties (Zip Ties) & Insulation tape. Pocket Knife, Bungy cords. small socket set. couple screwdrivers, metric hex key set, sml can CRC, first aid kit, puncture repair kit, tire sealer, spare set of levers, fuses & original indicator relay. Room for a mini compressor (stripped back to naff all) but not always carried.

If I'm away for the weekend I'll also put a leg of Lamb, 3 cooked chickens, a loaf of bread & a tub of Marg!    :whistling: :happy1:  yeah, or not. :onya:
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Hooli on Thursday, 07 October 2021, 04:25 AM
I'd forgot that, the original indicator relay is under my seat too. Normally anyway.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: DP1400 on Friday, 08 October 2021, 06:16 AM
There`s very little under my seat.
Importantly, I have a can of puncture repair/tyre inflator stuff. Two spare bungee straps; the original owners handbook (purely so that I know where i`ve left it!), and the original tool kit together with additional allen keys. I also keep a card taped under the seat with my basic insurance contact details in case of breakdown or accident, obviously nothing with my name and address on!
The bulk of the space is reserved for really essential items, ie. my wife`s hair brush; touch-up paint, etc. etc. the list goes on..... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Notty on Friday, 08 October 2021, 06:34 AM
Rac breakdown card  :)
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 08 October 2021, 08:59 AM
Quote from: DP1400 on Friday, 08 October  2021, 06:16 AMI have a can of puncture repair/tyre inflator stuff.


Just a comment on that stuff, tyre shops normally refuse to plug a tyre if you've put that in. Something to do with it attacking the inside of the tyre so they can't promise their bung will never come loose.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: KiwiCol on Friday, 08 October 2021, 01:18 PM
Thx Hooli, I never knew that. Cheers.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: T 24 on Friday, 08 October 2021, 06:32 PM
Normal set:
-Tool kit
-Tyre weld spray
-Small compressor for tires
-Water-methanol tank(2L)+pump+control unit for water meth injection
-Secondary ECU for secondary injectors
-Dual level boost controller
-FMU= fuel pressure regulator
-Antitheft alarm system
-Small first aid kit
-Chain oiler
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Irish in Oz on Saturday, 09 October 2021, 12:53 AM
Absolutely nothing not even a battery.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: froudy on Saturday, 09 October 2021, 05:56 PM
When I had my GSX14 I was impressed with the underseat storage and made the most of it.

OEM toolkit. Rarely used as the only useful thing in it was the plug spanner!
A small toolkit with Allen keys, pliers and various sockets.
Spare fuses.
Cable ties.
Tyre plugging kit inc gas inflation canisters.
Small LED head torch.
Mucoff visor cleaning kit.
Waterproof over jacket and trousers.
Disc lock.
Tracker unit.

I can honestly say that in 7 years ownership and 50k miles covered that I never used any of the tools whilst out on the road. I had two "break downs". One resulted in me and the bike being recovered and taken home(electrical short under the tank in torrential rain) The other was self inflicted by fitting after market levers and the bike wouldn't start with the clutch lever set to span setting 1. Caught me out a treat did that one.

It always felt safer though to have a few bits and pieces with me..Just in case :imrgreen:

PS. I think the idea of carrying a spare brake and clutch lever is a good one.
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Tally on Saturday, 09 October 2021, 09:20 PM
Hey!@ froudy. That's a good idea about the spare levers , so good that I've ordered a pair from a company called MSA, o.e.m. levers in alloy £24.99+p,p or red,blue or black £32.99+p,p. Being a tightwad I got the alloy ones :lol:
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: J16SDA on Monday, 11 October 2021, 04:28 AM
I'm a bit late to the party on this one but as its my 1st bike I've gone with the essentials.

Puncture Kit with gas canisters
water proof trousers
disc lock
small bit of wire for the fault codes
small tool kit
latex gloves
baby wipes
microfibre cloth
lens spray

I do have an sw motech tank bag which I've got some other bits and bobs in too :)
Title: Re: What's under your seat?
Post by: Globalrider on Monday, 11 October 2021, 05:31 AM
What like this??!!