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Title: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Johno on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 08:07 AM
In less than a week and with only 37 km covered on my new Angel  GT's I discovered this in my rear tyre!



Here is the offending item,

What's the view on repair versus chucking it away?
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Johno on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 08:13 AM
Some more info.

It came out cleanly but so did the air.

I was hoping it hadn't completely penetrated the carcass.

I've chalked the hole and now have a flat rear in my garage.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: KiwiCol on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 09:26 AM
In the centre I'd personally be using a mushroom plug, as used in a car tyre.

Like most things, we all have different views and different reasoning.

I'd plug it myself, or have it done by a tyre shop.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Johno on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 09:53 AM
Thanks Col for the feedback.

I do have a repair kit but I'm inclined to get a pro to do it if I decide to go that way.

I've successfully plugged a scooter and a ride on mower but I'll be doing 110 kph on the Motorways so a different environment.

Let's see what others have to say.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Horse on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 11:41 AM
Have worked in the tyre game in a previous time and having used the internal and external tyre plugs in both car and bike tyres I will offer that an internal plug (previously described as mushroom plugs) applied and glued correctly will give absolutely no problem at all. the likelihood of major belt damage with the location and size of the screw, I believe is not credible. I have personally used a tyre for more than half its life with a plug that had more damage than yours with occasional high speed ( on a racetrack of course :whistling:) with absolutely no effect .  Ultimately it's your peace of mind and if you can't be comfortable on the tyre get rid of it . Personally I would plug it and use it,

My two cents worth ,
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Johno on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 04:09 PM
Thanks horse. I appreciate your consideration and advice.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: grog on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 04:23 PM
Such bad luck Mate. Can happen to any of us. Mate had same happen, he plugged it and used it until worn out. Ive plugged many car tyres from inside, never an issue. Not even sure on legality on bike tyre. Tiny screw, doubt its damaged the tyre, reckon id plug it and use. Just my opinion. Reckon itll be a can of worms this subject.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Johno on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 05:00 PM
Thanks grog,

In the end it will be my decision.

Wheel now off. So I'll see how we go tomorrow.

Fortunately as horse noted it very close to the centre of the tyre.

If Irish really was in Oz we could have done a deal because as you know he only uses the sides. :whistling:

I ride like old man.  :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: grog on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 05:36 PM
Johno, just had a look. Legal to repair your tyre. Pity youre not closer, i have the stuff to do it at work.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Mick_J on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 06:29 PM
I would plug it with an internal mushroom plug, my Beemer is currently running with a plugger tyre and is giving me no problems at all.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Kiwifruit on Sunday, 04 July 2021, 06:33 PM
Johno I'd be happy to plug and glue from inside. Have had to do that repair to my rear tyre recently myself. Did have it professionally done.
May not be so happy to have it done on the shoulder of the tyre.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Irish in Oz on Monday, 05 July 2021, 04:54 PM
Hi Johno
It depends on the spec, if its a B throw it away.
I've plugged a couple of Angels one with only a few hundred k's on it, rode on it until it was trashed no problems
The plug was in the centre.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Johno on Monday, 05 July 2021, 05:24 PM
Thanks Irish and everyone else who chipped in. I really appreciate the quality of advice and experience on this forum.

I dropped into my tyre supplier this morning and he had no qualms about doing an internal mushroom plug. Repair was completed by lunch time and I now have the wheel in the garage. I'll take the opportunity to clean up the rear caliper while the wheel is off. No rush as we are in lockdown until at least the end of the week.

The workshop is a great find for me as it is more convenient than a large dealership where I'd previously had tyres fitted. Owner/operator is a classic racer who has lots of experience on 70s/80s machines as well as more modern machines.

I had the forks stripped and cleaned. New seals and fork oil.

I'm embarrassed to say it hadn't been changed since I'd purchased the bike in September 2015.

The change in handling has been amazing. The front tyre was barely legal but badly worn on the right side.

I definetly won't let this one go so far without a replacement. Such a cheap way to improve your handling.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: grog on Monday, 05 July 2021, 05:51 PM
Glad its sorted Mate.
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: GSXKING on Monday, 05 July 2021, 08:30 PM
That looks like a fairly decent repair mate, once you get some mileage on it you'll be hard pressed finding it again.  :clapping: :clapping:
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Tonythetiger on Monday, 12 July 2021, 05:51 AM
I know it's a bit late but I would use a mushroom plug, I use them on my truck and run it at 90 kmh and 44 Tonnes with no problems ever so a bike should be fine. T.T.T
Title: Re: New Pirelli Angel Misery
Post by: Johno on Monday, 12 July 2021, 10:01 PM
Quote from: Tonythetiger on Monday, 12 July  2021, 05:51 AM
I know it's a bit late but I would use a mushroom plug, I use them on my truck and run it at 90 kmh and 44 Tonnes with no problems ever so a bike should be fine. T.T.T

Thanks Tony.

More reassuring positive comments are appreciated. A mate of mine drives a truck in an open cut coal mine.

The tyres on his vehicle are $80,000 each. They repair them.

All the feedback I've received from a wide range of sources has reinforced the success rate of repairs.