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Technically Speaking => General Technical discussion => Topic started by: VladTepes on Friday, 04 June 2021, 09:53 AM

Title: Key / barrel issue
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 04 June 2021, 09:53 AM
Is it just me or can other people remove their key from their ignition barrel while bike is running (ignition on position) ?
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: SFC1000 on Friday, 04 June 2021, 10:58 AM
I haven't tried, but it's not uncommon with worn barrels in both cars and bikes.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: GSXKING on Friday, 04 June 2021, 01:09 PM
YEs mine has done that for some time I think it's the wear and tear over 20 years. One side of my key turns easier than the other also.  :whatever:
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Friday, 04 June 2021, 03:34 PM
Nope, mine is trapped when ignition on / engine running
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 04 June 2021, 04:18 PM
OK cool nothing to worry about then. :)
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: grog on Friday, 04 June 2021, 06:32 PM
Mines the opposite sometimes, hard to get key in then hard to turn. Bit of jiggling required. Ive seen the videos/threads on how to fix. Bit fiddly for me, Mates a Locksmith, will employ his talent one day.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: Johno on Friday, 04 June 2021, 08:49 PM
Quote from: grog on Friday, 04 June  2021, 06:32 PM
Mines the opposite sometimes, hard to get key in then hard to turn. Bit of jiggling required. Ive seen the videos/threads on how to fix. Bit fiddly for me, Mates a Locksmith, will employ his talent one day.

I have the same issue as Grog.

My K5's barrel is obviously worn and sometimes takes some jiggling to get the key in or out.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: black14 on Saturday, 05 June 2021, 08:18 AM
The ability to remove the key does have an advantage - you can remove it, unlock the seat and check the fault codes if there's an issue. Every cloud...  :hat:
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: Hooli on Sunday, 06 June 2021, 08:33 PM
This is the only reason I couldn't ride my 14 home from the crash at easter. The key started to fall out & the clocks hit it & bent it. There's no way it'd straighten without snapping so I couldn't get the bike running again as it'd managed to turn itself off too.

I know when I stripped the lock barrel down the brass tumblers where very worn so that's probably why.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 07 June 2021, 11:34 AM
Quote from: grog on Friday, 04 June  2021, 06:32 PM
hard to turn. Bit of jiggling required.

Yeah I get that too.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: Hooli on Monday, 07 June 2021, 05:06 PM
Rebuild the lock, I put up a guide how to once. It's simple enough if you take your time & keep the parts in order.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 08 June 2021, 10:24 AM
Hooli if you can find it here let me know and I'll create a stand alone doc for the downloads section.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 08 June 2021, 04:49 PM
I suspect it's lost in the 'what did you do to your bike today' thread.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 08 June 2021, 05:35 PM
I'll have a look n see if I can find anything on it.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 08 June 2021, 05:45 PM
I remember that write up Hooli. Just cant remember when or where.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 08 June 2021, 06:23 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Sunday, 22 March  2020, 06:40 AM.

Found it, with pic's included.

Bugger, it hasn't copied through.  I'll try again.

@VladTepes you can open this post & see the message details as to where that post of Hooli's is, if I can't get a link to it.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 08 June 2021, 06:35 PM
Yeah, can't copy a post or create a link to it. 
So the post you're looking for is in "So what did you do to your bike today", Page 212, reply # 3176 on 22/3/20
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 08 June 2021, 07:35 PM
Link to the page https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=420.3176

I didn't realise it was that long ago, well found Col
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 09 June 2021, 07:47 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 08 June  2021, 07:35 PM
Link to the page https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=420.3176

I didn't realise it was that long ago, well found Col

@Hooli @VladTepes @KiwiCol Now moved to its own topic and stickied https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=6266.0
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 09 June 2021, 12:37 PM
Champion Barmy !   :notworthy:
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 09 June 2021, 05:11 PM
I think somewhere a bit later in the 'what did you do you to bike' thread I did the ignition switch too, I can't find it though.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 09 June 2021, 05:53 PM
I saw that yesterday while I was searching. Here I go again. . .
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 09 June 2021, 05:56 PM
Reply 3199

https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=420.3195

and the bolts to replace at the bottom are M4 x 8mm - earlier post from Andre to that question Hooli.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 09 June 2021, 05:59 PM
Hooli, you write it, I find it & Barmy stickys it!
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 09 June 2021, 06:03 PM
From memory a guide to those pics is -

Remove top yoke.
Drill/drift the blank headed security bolts out to remove the bottom of the switch. I think they were M5 so just use normal replacements.
Lift out the bits of switch in order, clean them up & lube them lightly with silicon (electrical) grease.
Lift out the bits of the steering lock, clean them & regrease with normal grease.
As they say in Haynes, reassembly is a reversal of removal.
Title: Re: Key / barrel issue
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 09 June 2021, 11:51 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 09 June  2021, 05:56 PM
Reply 3199

https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=420.3195

and the bolts to replace at the bottom are M4 x 8mm - earlier post from Andre to that question Hooli.

And again.... https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=6268.msg68641#msg68641

@Hooli @VladTepes @KiwiCol