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Title: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: stick3 on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 12:57 PM
first thing check the pressure had to drop the fronts down to 33 psi rears were fine at 41- 42 psi  also fitted new 90 degree valves so little bit hard to get a precise reading from gauge at the right angle without loosing to much air and fuel gauge was on 4 bars

just done 80km very nice the bike handles and turns better they are very  quiet as i have read on reviews and had to take tight corners slow and easy
   
had do a hard braking when set of traffic light with red light camera change in a 80km speed limit i was around 50 meters away so there got good grip about 15 ks in the trip so the tyres would have been warmed

my new rear brakes rotor pads from metal gear were very good and even the fronts with old 8 year old pads even the handle has got better feel the mechanic did check all bearings including the steering and a road test  said there all fine i even ask about changing the oil in the forks he said unless there leaking he couldn t fault them
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 01:22 PM
Good report there, but 33 in the front?   I'd of thought 36 minimum, to 38.  But hey, if 33 is working for you, then why not.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 05:43 PM
Same thoughts Col. Angels on mine for a long time. 36 in front.  if im slack, gets down to 34,i can tell a bit squirmy. Maybe diff with Metzler. Mate whos ex track rider reckons i run too much. 32/36 his opinion. Wait for Sticks opinion.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: stick3 on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 05:52 PM
shit i better put some more air in than dont know where i got that lower psi from but it nearly had 40 from the tyre shop but i dont know accurate the tyre pressure gauge is its the pencil type had a long time
what tyre gauge to buy https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/4wd-outdoors/tyre-care/tyre-gauges
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 06:09 PM
Stick, i reckon that $14 clearance would work well. Got good reviews from Choice. I have similar plus a few other digitals. All seem very accurate comparing to expensive Snap On at work. My fave is my digital inflator, connects to air line. $35 chinese copy of Snap On. Depends wether you want gauge or inflator/ gauge.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 06:37 PM
I have the Roadtec 01's (not the SE) on my BMW R1250GS, super tyre, really rate it, the only difference between mine and the SE (I believe) is that you get slightly quicker turn-in on the SE's, so given they are the newer ones out, that's what I'll be fitting next time.

I'd rate these as good as the Michelin PR5's I've used previously, if anything slightly better wear.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: stick3 on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 06:44 PM
thanks grog i call in to sca get that one and  what you said when the  pressures are low they handle like a pig these metzelers are new to me last to 2 sets have been pirelli st gt over the last 10 years
i have a play with the pressures anyway i couldn t fault the way the 14 handle today it was very precise 
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 07:31 PM
Mate, just play with pressures until you find what you like/feel what works. Ive had Angels now, maybe 8 yrs. Guess i could experiment with pressures, think i did that early on, hard to remember. Ive never changed from 36/38. Tyres grip, last forever. 23,400 from last rear. 19 from front.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 18 May 2021, 09:06 PM
I'm keen to put a set of Metzeler 01 SE's on as my Road 5's are squaring up a bit now.
Dilema......   :confused1:  Metzelers $680pr
Michelin 5's $520 pr.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 19 May 2021, 09:11 AM
I also got Metzeler 01 SE's and am very happy with them so far. Haven't given it a thrashing in the hills yet but have done a few laps of them. I'm running 36F/40R pressures. 


@Kiwifruit you ought to be able top pick up a set of Metzeler 01  (non-SE) for cheaper and they are apparently very good also.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: stick3 on Wednesday, 19 May 2021, 09:37 AM
the old tyres still had life in them at least 5000ks but i did get a puncture in the rear early last year and that was on my mind and they been on 6 years plus i get the brakes fitted at the same time also that $813 included 73.99 gst

as for the valves i brought those a couple months ago after reading somebody on here fitted them  La Corsa Tubeless Valve Stem - Black - 11.3mm (Pair)

kf no thats to much difference $160 i be going road 5

 
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 19 May 2021, 05:53 PM
Col just had a look. $495 delivered for Metzler. Just fitting required. Usually if i take that price to local bloke, he matches and fits for same.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: stick3 on Wednesday, 19 May 2021, 06:59 PM
this morning  i connected the tyre inflator with digital gauge from jamec pem to the compressor and check the tyres front was 36.3 and rear was 38 pump it to 42 so no wonder it handle like
normal
done some more ks to day the confidence is growing when cornering and i brought that digital tyre gauge from sca grog told me to get and i check it on the ute tyres it said 37 psi and did put 36 .3  so thats pretty close
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 19 May 2021, 07:13 PM
Happy its ok Mate.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 19 May 2021, 09:57 PM
Might see if the wholesaler will tell me of a retailer who sells a lot of their tyres. They might offer a better price. Seems like the shops near me push just one brand. Mainly Michelin or Bridgestone.
It would appear that the Chinese govt own Pirelli and Metzeler as they own the Chinese National Chemical Company that produces those tyres  :facepalm:
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: grog on Thursday, 20 May 2021, 07:27 PM
https://www.tyrereviews.com/Article/who-owns-what-tyre-brands.htm
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: seth on Thursday, 20 May 2021, 07:54 PM
@grog
Just a quick add on to this.
Metzeler is also owned By Pirelli too and both brands of tyres are made on the same production lines .
:cheers:
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 20 May 2021, 11:15 PM
Would hate to get the rubber mixed wrong and end up with a Metzerelli or a Pirelezeter.....
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: seth on Friday, 21 May 2021, 10:30 PM
I'd bet they share compounds between the different models and brands of tyres.
:doh:
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: SFC1000 on Friday, 21 May 2021, 10:34 PM
Makes you wonder if the compound is the same and only the tyre pattern is different.
Chinese cost cutting.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: seth on Saturday, 22 May 2021, 12:04 AM
Very probably
I remember chatting with s Pirelli guy at a BSB event he said the Angel gt2's was as close to a moto2 racing wet tyre (except moto2 use dunlops) for the road and should be as good in the wet as the dry but last a lot of miles .(I don't think the gt2's will ever last as well as the gt's but do offer better grip in the wet so that'll be the trade off)
The metzeler has a very different tread pattern so I'm interested to see how they go in both wet and dry and also how long they last.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: GSXKING on Saturday, 22 May 2021, 11:35 AM
Metzler does the hard yards and ground work developing the tyres and what ever works the best is then taken over by Pirelli and refined a little more before going to mass production.

You European guys get much more extreme changes of weather including rain and cold. So I understand your comments about wet grip.

Our extreme is usually from hot to hotter, so grip not such and issue, however when it rains (summer) in Queensland the grip level changes quite a lot as the first downpour usually brings all the crap on the road out of the cracks to the surface, i.e. diesel and oil spills etc. Then after several days of rain it settles down. I've always been a bit of a duck when riding and rain never fazed me, my mates on the other hand weren't always so keen.

We have BOM apps and can track the weather to within 15 minutes, so technology can help you avoid riding in to a storm.  :clapping:
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 25 May 2021, 06:30 PM
Seth, Mate just fitted Angel 2s, original GT before. Cant notice a difference. I dont like the look, lines around centre, just doesnt look right, sort of old skool look. If it works, who cares.
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: seth on Tuesday, 25 May 2021, 10:49 PM
@grog I'll be using gt2's on the other bikes just got the metzelers as had problems with my old tyre supplier .
Found some local who gave a good price on the metzelers .
Title: Re: metzeler roadtec 01 se first run
Post by: stick3 on Wednesday, 26 May 2021, 07:50 AM
i can only go on reviews from forums and m/cycle websites when im due for tyres and i cant recall what the previous tyres were like angels gt/st or the original bridgestones  when they were new but the angels had the best reviews when i got them fitted

the roadtecs have now done just over 200ks now and feel nice and comfortable