So what do we all think of the new Busa?
Personally the exhaust cans ruin it for me, but I'm sure Akrapovic will bring out a better looking system for it in time.
Those cans make the original 14's look like stubbies😂🤣😂
Well it's kept the 'busa looks, as it's sodding awful.
Quote from: Hooli on Saturday, 06 February 2021, 09:50 PM
Well it's kept the 'busa looks, as it's sodding awful.
I was never keen on Busa's to be honest, but when the Mk2 came out (looked like the rear end had melted and drooped), the Mk1 started to grow on me a bit more. I sort of quite like this new Mk3. I bet the power is nowhere near that of the first Mk1's though. Probably been totally strangled by emissions bits and pieces.
For me the Busa has never been a looker, somethings never change :grin:
I absolutely loved mine but after an unlawful stint with a 911 I decided to sell it before I hurt myself or worse
I always said it had the looks that only a mother could love :)
But I have to admit I loved mine to bits and was sorry as soon as I sold it on. I had a first edition resprayed after an incident with a numpty car driver Suzuki white) and I have to say I prefer that to both the 2nd generation and in fact this third model.
The second gen looked as though the clay model had been left in front of the radiator the day before it went to the production team to make the moulds!
The latest (IMO) is bit fussy and over designed, (but then a lot of new bikes and cars are following that design route too) and the exhaust is hideous! :).
Keep safe Chip
I'd take the new Hayabusa over the new Katana any day.
Polarising as it is we all know this thing is an absolute rocket and you would lose your licence in first gear, however every model I've ridden has given me a smile on my face that takes ages to go away. Think B-Kings with aerodynamics. :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Only ridden one. They sure are ugly but a ride to remember. That tacho needle moves very quickly.
The Bussa does nothing for me, never has and never will, it's got a fairing for one and a screen for two. :thumbs_down:
I love that and I want one, BUT not problem coz way too expensive for me.
The pipes are reminiscent of a B-King insofar as they look like aesthetic overkill. Akro would need to come to the rescue there ! I'm sure they will.
Also I'd only be interested if I could get the black panels from one and the red trim from the other (instead of orange).
I am also very surprised by the lack of a 'turning' headlight. A rider of a bike that quick needs all the illumination they can get.
The whole Suzuki release, Global Salon thing, was built up so much.New models. I was excited. All we got was Busa. Typical Suzuki of late. Also, its price just went up 9 g from last model. Ridiculous.
After all this time Suzuki still haven`t sorted the back end out! For me, the Busa is still an awful looking bike. Yes, it goes well, but so do others. I`ll take the Kawa `14 every time thank you.
Yes, the price rise is utterly ridiculous.
Suzuki is justifying it by saying that "for the last few years the Gen 2 has been at runout pricing" but it's still a steep increase on the precious price being paid ride-away for the Gen2 pre-runout. Nobody was paying full RRP.
Given they were saying there would be a negligible price increase - they've screwed that up.
Given that they still haven't got any GSX1400-esque bike in the line up, they are missing the opportunity there too.
They may not see a 'retro; bike as a big seller, but something along a similar theory is whats needed - 1400-ish cc, bags of Torque, comfortable for two-up, space under the seat, similar riding position, and not overly aggressive styling.
I agree Vlad - Suzuki do need a really nice naked big four adding to their ever depleting range. I think that it would be a good seller too, given todays interest in classics. A `back to basics` revived Bandit `12, or a sensibly updated `14 would hit the spot. After all, lets not forget that the early Bandits sold by the bucket load - and for good reason. Probably one of the best value bikes ever made.....!
Had a 1200 bandit with a half fairing and loved it. Always regretted letting it go and for good reason. Never missed a beat, totally reliable and handled superbly🤗
Phil, ditto - I had an `03 naked, an absolute minter too. Sold it for a song just before I bought my `14 and it was still a standard mint bike, 12,000mls from new, except the ART can I fitted years ago which sounded awesome! Wish i`d kept it too. Performance was exactly the same as the `14, probably a touch better in fact, but being lighter and a shorter wheelbase it was wild - I miss that! I think it def handled better than the `14 too. The only downside was the crap seat which became unbearable after 70 miles. Unlike others I`ve never had problems with the seat on my `14 (standard). :cheers:
Quote from: DP1400 on Wednesday, 10 February 2021, 07:57 AM
After all, lets not forget that the early Bandits sold by the bucket load - and for good reason. Probably one of the best value bikes ever made.....!
That's the reason I still have my "not quite standard" Mk1 1200 :imrgreen:
Froudy, i detest orange on bikes. Yours is different, love that bike. Just looks mean.
So no Laverda's or KTM's for you
@grog :stir: :stir: :stir:
Not really much of a KTM fan actually. Werent Laverda more a dull orange.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorcycleclassics.com%2Fclassic-italian-motorcycles%2Flaverda-jota-1000&psig=AOvVaw1XUpH6WshjiRlDkByjVNnl&ust=1613130242641000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCPiZr8ng4e4CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD
Mine was more a red.
(https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/gallery/0/2972-110221221647.jpeg)
(https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/gallery/0/2972-110221221601.jpeg)
I've never understood the love for Laverdas, they look & sound so bland.
Each to their own.
The 180 degree crank motors had an offbeat note which I think sounded great.
The Jota silencers fitted to these were just plain loud.
The later 120 degree crank motors sounded like any Jap multi.
The built in silencer (not) on the factory 3 into 1's on mine would give no doubt you were coming miles away.
I quite like an orange bike.
MZ ?
Quote from: grog on Thursday, 11 February 2021, 07:20 PM
Froudy, i detest orange on bikes. Yours is different, love that bike. Just looks mean.
I like my 06 GSF1200S - last of the air cooled! did a lot of NA on it!
Nice bike Global. I know of one sitting in a caravan park next to the ocean. Hardly any use but rusting away. Bloke wont sell it as he reckons hell fix it one day. Never will. Such a waste.
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 16 February 2021, 06:07 PM
I know of one sitting in a caravan park next to the ocean. Hardly any use but rusting away. Bloke wont sell it as he reckons hell fix it one day. Never will. Such a waste.
That really annoys me too. Like you said, he'll never fix it and it'll end up being uneconomical for someone else to do it when he finally decides to let it go.
It'll eventually get advertised as a "Rare barn find with low miles"..In other words..SCRAP :furious:
Tidy 1200 there
@Globalrider :onya:
The last of the "Proper Bandit's" before they turned them into water boilers and killed them off.
Annoys me Froudy. I made an offer 12 mths ago, lots of cleaning, not many new parts, lots of polishing. Was just on the verge. By now probably too far gone. Our ocean/humidity just wrecks things. I know of a Laverda Jota, same story, just sits under his open to weather house. 20 yrs ago was ok, now just rooted. Such a classic just wasted. Frogwits.
Quote from: GSXKING on Monday, 15 February 2021, 08:57 PM
MZ ?
Yes mate, 1000cc, very rare in the UK, in fact in the world. It's really good fun to ride.
They are actually very good bikes and far better than the spec sheets and some narrow minded folk make out. Certainly not a step back from a Gen-1 or 2.
(https://i.ibb.co/sqN50vr/084-AF3-FF-7509-4-C4-E-B0-A4-9-A8303-A3-E032.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NKJ186z)
Mine. :smitten:
(https://i.ibb.co/svMnL5k/1-DCE995-F-523-D-4-F65-BC19-C8624-A11-BF76.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tMWgyZk)
(https://dedupelist.com/)
"Haters gonna hate".
Hullo Tony, been a while.
Hi Tony, great to see you back!
That an upgrade to the H2 then? or as well as . . .
:welcome: back
@Tony Nitrous :cheers:
Quote from: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 03 May 2022, 01:18 PM
Hi Tony, great to see you back!
That an upgrade to the H2 then? or as well as . . .
H2's gone now. I thought I'd use it more when I retired and left Brisbane but it wasn't suitable for what I'm doing and where I am now. Shame, I did like it and it went real well and had stuff I wish the new Busa had. I thought about keeping it but I've bought another modded GSXR as well as some other stuff and wasn't sure why I had the Kawasaki gathering dust, and it had a few things about it that weren't really what I wanted. It was a fun and interesting 3 years but we needed to go our seperate ways.
Big sporty Suzuki's traditionally came with both a pillion seat AND a single seat cowl. My Gen-1 did, my B-King did, it was normal.
Now Suzuki have decided the cowl is a $317 optical extra, and it's the first new bike I've had in decades they didn't even put a tank pad on. Both fixable but you shouldn't have to.
(https://i.ibb.co/bNDTLC0/B4-C863-DD-9-E0-B-4406-9-AE8-6-D77-D7971-F8-A.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BTFbjQp)
(https://i.ibb.co/yQPrNqZ/98397-AD8-BBF2-4-CEA-B83-A-E23-D25913-FBF.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nLmFwjY)
(https://i.ibb.co/c2dHWZY/E81-ED933-53-D2-4-F20-8881-5492-AACE8-D9-B.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YfGM510)
(https://i.ibb.co/5M35pLz/6-CFC69-BE-5-AFE-4-C76-98-A9-900-C6-C035-A78.jpg) (https://ibb.co/YRStnhK)
(https://statewideinventory.org/bmw-0-60-times)
They still haven't moved away from ginormous exhaust cans either....I get the whole Euro emissions requirements thing, but other manufacturers seem to be able to design a can that's a bit more aesthetic.
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Tuesday, 17 May 2022, 05:30 PM
They still haven't moved away from ginormous exhaust cans either....I get the whole Euro emissions requirements thing, but other manufacturers seem to be able to design a can that's a bit more aesthetic.
My Kawasaki had a 4 into 1 and still had a much smaller can.
My past Busa's all had / have Yoshi cans but I'm going to hold off a while.
If it's within budget I'd like a 4-2-1 full system.
You can't do 4-1's on Busa's or B-Kings other than drag race sidewinders.
Yeah, the stock cans are awful.
Agree totally, had a look in show room new GSXR1000, really couldnt believe can size. Salesman kept muttering on about changing it to Akra, re tuning etc etc. Dollar figures were like a politicians wages.No wonder Suzuki going broke.
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Tuesday, 17 May 2022, 05:30 PM
They still haven't moved away from ginormous exhaust cans either....I get the whole Euro emissions requirements thing, but other manufacturers seem to be able to design a can that's a bit more aesthetic.
Lack of room underneath? Other makes I've looked at seem to have lifted the gearbox & hidden the cat etc under there. I assume the 'busa hasn't got a new engine, just a tweaked one so it'd reduce ground clearance too much?
Just thinking aloud so might be totally wrong.
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 17 May 2022, 09:12 PM
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Tuesday, 17 May 2022, 05:30 PM
They still haven't moved away from ginormous exhaust cans either....I get the whole Euro emissions requirements thing, but other manufacturers seem to be able to design a can that's a bit more aesthetic.
Lack of room underneath? Other makes I've looked at seem to have lifted the gearbox & hidden the cat etc under there. I assume the 'busa hasn't got a new engine, just a tweaked one so it'd reduce ground clearance too much?
Just thinking aloud so might be totally wrong.
The Gen1, 2 and 3 Busa's and the B-King always have a 4 into 2 system to fit around the bottom of the engine. Then either twin cans or a 2 into 1 section. There's no room under the motor.
You don't see Busa 4-1's unless they are dragbike Sidewinders.
Having owned one for 3 years and now owning the other, this doesn't really tell the whole story, the extras the H2 comes with, or the faults and issues it has, but it's still an OK comparison of the only 2 Jap bikes in the Class now.
Vlad - I think I'd have the busa.
Also Vlad - checks wallet. Moths.
Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 24 May 2022, 08:16 AM
Vlad - I think I'd have the busa.
Also Vlad - checks wallet. Moths.
And your license would evaporate in seconds with so many "road safety/revenue raising" cameras proliferating south east Queensland roads presently. 2 $ million a week from mobile phone/seat belt cameras alone & they aren't getting the hint. One stupid woman has been caught 6 times @ $1000/offence + 4 points & fine doubles if within 12 months 😳
I guess she will keep driving unlicensed 🤯🤯🤯
Yeah Chris, they just are everywhere, got one for speeding in Corolla, imagine if i had a Busa.
True that.
I'm a convert to proper cruise control. I always hated throttle lock type stuff but car like electronic version is great. I thought it'd be just a novelty gimmick but after over 3 years with it I miss it on other bikes. My old bones, injures and arthritis love the resting my grip, sitting up, giving either hand a rest on the highway or long straights. I never thought I would be, but I'm a convert.
However.....
... much as I love cruise control (it suits my old bones and poor health) I dislike the way some bikes come off it. The H2 had a bit of a jolt, I eventually worked out that knocking the cruise control off the H2 with the clutch fixed that. However... the Busa has a thing where when you do that it blips the revs, very noticeably, like a milder version of a missed gear, I didn't like it!
I worked out today that unlike on the Kwak, knocking the cruise control off with the rear brake is quite smooth on the Busa.
A very small detail, but a few times on each ride it's just a little bit nicer.
Second that. I have the car type cc on the bmw k1300gt, very easy to use and adjust, but comes off it quite harshly, still need to figure out how to get it off Cc softly. The rear brake idea is worth pursuing....
Both my BMW RT & 325 car have active cruise that slows your decent down hill also. :onya: :onya:
I see the new H2 SX SE has the active system like my Rav-4 that has a radar bit that keeps a set distance to the vehicle in front. The Rav will speed up or slow down to keep a set distance from any vehicle it catches up within the set speed, I have been known to be in my Hilux and forget it doesn't do this!!!
I don't know how common it is on bikes but the H2 SX SE is the first time I've seen it on a bike.
I thought cruise on a bike was a gimmick too, but I use it all the time on my HD. On that a flick of the brake is smoothest to come off it too, dunno why rolling the throttle past off makes it shut off harsher, it's an off one.
Coming off using the brake also might wake up following traffic that your slowing when the brake light flashes.
BMW, KTM and Ducati have had adaptive cruise for a while now, japs are just catching up.
Yeah I looked into get cruise fitted to the 1400 at one stage - obviously on vacuum operated, but at $1K - yeah NO.
Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 14 June 2022, 11:53 AM
Yeah I looked into get cruise fitted to the 1400 at one stage - obviously on vacuum operated, but at $1K - yeah NO.
Same. I hate to sticky throttle hand rest type systems and couldn't justify an aftermarket one that wasn't really a modern ECU type. Cruise control suits me and to have it on a 14 would be nice.
I've got a Brakeaway Cruise Control & I'm very happy with it. Way better than the one it comes with . . .
So im the opposite. Ute and car with factory cruise control. Had other cars with it.Never use it. Just doesnt feel right to me, of course ive tried it a few times, not for me.No thoughts for or against.14 has always had throttle rocker on it, thats something i couldnt ride without. Wish id had one back in the heavy throttle turning Ducati days. Each to their own i reckon.
I find myself using it a lot in town & roadworks where most speed cameras are, it's so easy to creep up to a safe speed rather than a legal one.
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 14 June 2022, 05:58 PM
.Never use it. Just doesnt feel right to me,
My wife is the same. A couple of times a month she go's into the office, It's about 180k's (110 miles) each way so a long day for her. It's mostly highway with few reasons to stop so leaving early morning is a nice run and she does not and will not use it. She just doesn't like it.
I'm the opposite. Much as I love the acceleration, braking, gears and having some input, soon as I'm out of town mine is in "use" mode on cars and bikes and anywhere I'm holding a set speed on the highway or proper long stretches of open road it's on.
I have a few health issues from worsening arthritis to previous work and bike injuries to a hernia and I'm noticing things aren't getting better with age! My last two bikes cruise control is something that lets me do longer runs again, and ride less upright bikes for more than short distances.
Very much as Grog says "Each to their own".
Quote from: Hooli on Tuesday, 14 June 2022, 09:26 PM
it's so easy to creep up to a safe speed rather than a legal one.
:winner:
It's taken a little while but now Woolich Racing have cracked the Gen-3 ECU access and are making the software and cables available.
The restrictive exhaust can be fixed with a Gen-2 aftermarket full system and a minor electrical mod, so it'll be interesting to see how it responds.
I'm not expecting huge 45hp gains like the H2 but meeting Euro-5 specs may possibly have strangled the motor a bit?
Either way it's a step forward as it's now open to tuners and performance mods.
(https://i.ibb.co/sJMWxbM/44-DD6398-D749-41-D9-A2-A8-DF2332-DDF8-BE.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PzfDXFf)
Not a Busa but saw GSXR 1000 in black with red trim today. Akra exhaust. Beautiful looking bike. Actually proud of Suzuki for that one. 👍
Today:
(https://i.ibb.co/qnbw9G8/4403-DA64-62-CE-4-A79-94-C9-97-F0-A810-D30-F.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vB28m5W)
Thoughts:
* Still running in so 5500rpm / 160kph / 100mph "ish" (So they tell me) :whistling:
* I think the ECU doesn't give full throttle until over 5000rpm even when the right hand does so it still pulls surprisingly well if it's not getting all what it's told. (This will be corrected with the Woolich flash).
* Seat isn't GSX14 comfy but it's better than the H2 or B-King.
* The B-King and a Gen-2 I've used had an occasional nasty BTL where if you used engine braking up to a set of lights for example they seemed to load up the clutch ramp, you had to feed in a bit of clutch and get a jolt, or, you got a snatch (Oh-err!) pulling away sometimes. Fixable by locking up the BTL but you really shouldn't have too. The Gen-3 seems to have fixed this.
* Quick shifter is VERY good. Much nicer than the Kwak's. I ended up turning the H2's off for sensible use and on for aggressive use. Not only is the Busa's smoother to use but you can leave it turned on and not notice it's there, the H2's was a bit trigger happy and with it on just finding the lever with your toes could jolt you into the next gear if you got a bit lazy or clumsy, I couldn't adjust it out so just used it ON or OFF where this one I can leave on and around town forget it's there.
* Bike has 6 modes, 3 preset and 3 with options (something even the new £44k Norton lacks) Pre set Sport Mode A leaves the quick shifter on in Full Power but it's so useable that it's fine for day to day use. Bikes like the Busa, B-King and H2 might have a bit of go when you stir the pot but with a heap of grunt and good fueling the soft maps are of questionable use, when not used in anger they share a similar usability to the 14.
Other bikes do some stuff better but this bike is good at what it is.
More importantly...... the GSX14 will be back in use either this Friday or next so I get comfort and a big tank along with luggage and some upright bars again. :onya:
I had a B-King & it chewed rear tyres & wheelied everywhere a good hooligans bike certainly not comfortable :whatever:
My GSX has few rider aides (fuel injection) thank goodness NO ABS it's very raw 👍👍
When I ride my BMW RT it has plenty of rider aides too many to list but is very enjoyable also.
Hayabusa is incredible machinery but I couldn't live with one 😁
My two cents worth 🧐
I have ZERO chance of owning one financially, but if they came in back with the red trim I'd love one.
If they came without a fairing I'd have one but otherwise no. The B-king was awful, tried one and it felt like I was sitting on the crapper, fat (fake tank) was horrible and only help a cats piss amount of fuel.
Quote from: mjgt on Wednesday, 22 June 2022, 07:18 PM
The B-king
I've only had mine for about 14 and a half years, I'll give it a while before I make my mind up... :rofl2:
(https://i.ibb.co/VB7TZS5/C427401-F-1889-40-E3-A3-F7-69479-F6-E15-FB.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ryCHS6N)
A naked Hayabusa ? Change the bars and remove the Tupperware... :whistling:
(https://i.ibb.co/xFby2CK/150908-D2-7-CA5-41-E9-BCDF-CF941-C7-A3-F29.png) (https://ibb.co/VwGdLj0)
free pic hosting sites (https://imgbb.com/)
Well, I took the new Hayabusa for a test ride on Wednesday. A close friend was going in to test ride a GSXS1000GT he was interested in so we went in on my K1600. As my friend was about to get ready the salesman asked if I wanted a to test ride something and there was the Hayabusa.
I'm guessing we went a little longer than expected, about 45 minutes and 50km (Mundaring Weir Rd if you know it). Didn't thrash the bikes or anything silly just wanted to see how they'd be day to day and if it was ergonomically suitable. I found at about the 30 minute mark I was getting sore in the shoulders and the arm pump starting to build as well as a crick in my neck on the left side. Those were the only faults and mostly would be cured by time in the saddle seated as such. I found out when I returned that cruise control is standard.
I've always had a penchant for sports tourer's and the 'Bus would make a great second bike.
I remember why I don't test ride bikes now.
Some of our local dealers won't allow two mates on on dems at the same time, they end up racing. This happened a couple of years ago, two mate both took out bikes, no bikes came back and only one rider lived to tell the tale.
@Batkwaka what was the report on GSXS1000ST ?
Your mate was lucky to get a test ride 🤨
Every one of them was sold prior to delivery in South East Queensland & some people onsold them for a profit prior to delivery 🧐🧐
Best SUZUKI in a long time apparently 😂😂
Quote from: Batkwaka on Saturday, 22 October 2022, 08:07 PM. I found at about the 30 minute mark I was getting sore in the shoulders and the arm pump starting to build as well as a crick in my neck on the left side. Those were the only faults and mostly would be cured by time in the saddle seated as such. I found out when I returned that cruise control is standard.
I've always had a penchant for sports tourer's and the 'Bus would make a great second bike..
Yeah, the bars are noticeably lower than the rival H2 SX SE, although they are different and better than previous Busa's. I've always had a Busa or GSXR11 for many years so although they aren't ideal for my age and health I can still enjoy them.
Cruise control was one of the selling points for me. As I've mentioned before I had it for 3 years on the Kwak and used it a lot more than I expected, it makes the lower bars a lot less of a deal when any straight or highway means you can take the weight off.
I've had a heap of Sports Tourers from a ZZR11, Blackbird, ZX12R, a few Gen-1 Busa's to a H2 SX SE. Like you I have a liking for that style of bike and the Gen-3 is certainly the best I've owned.
Some folk often refer to the tech / rider aids etc. Whats interesting is if you actually put some seat time in on one you can turn it off. No quick shift, no launch control, no shift lights, no traction control, no anti-wheelie settings etc etc. You can turn it back into a simple more basic bike. Even store it in the memory of one of the modes to go instantly to that set up. Despite what internet experts will tell you it's still very rideable and useable. Modern bikes fuel so well and are so progressive that a modern 180hp bike is very rideable compared to a 180hp tuned Old Skool bike.
Quote from: GSXKING on Sunday, 23 October 2022, 09:11 AM
@Batkwaka what was the report on GSXS1000ST ?
Your mate was lucky to get a test ride 🤨
Every one of them was sold prior to delivery in South East Queensland & some people onsold them for a profit prior to delivery 🧐🧐
Best SUZUKI in a long time apparently 😂😂
I'd like to try the ST.
One of our S/E Qld members on here has just bought a new Kat with a similar motor.
Been reading about the 1000 GT. Seem to tick the boxes. Will look into a test ride.
Quote from: GSXKING on Sunday, 23 October 2022, 09:11 AM
@Batkwaka what was the report on GSXS1000ST ?
Your mate was lucky to get a test ride 🤨
Every one of them was sold prior to delivery in South East Queensland & some people onsold them for a profit prior to delivery 🧐🧐
Best SUZUKI in a long time apparently 😂😂
It was the GT model and it was very nice. Again cruise control as standard, fly by wire throttle giving different mapping options. It was comfortable enough that Patrick didn't get the aches I was getting on the Hayabusa, he also rode around in top gear mostly as the spread of power was excellent and a very usable bottom end.
It handles just fine but we were only doing 60-70kph through a winding semi-rural road.
The problem is....the panniers aren't available. A GT with no luggage capacity? It is an issue with an independent supplier but nonetheless. The early Panorama model with top box as well was previously available but has been removed from the website. Very disappointing.
The bike itself is an absolute winner though, as an only bike I would take it over the Hayabusa as it a friendlier day to day option and with the right rider would be on the clacker of a Hayabusa in most situations.
I'm hoping Patrick buys one, he is the one in 2009 that convinced me to buy the GSX1400 over the Bandit which was a great move. He rode his GSX1400 when we travelled across Australia for the 2015 MotoGP. He sold up his bikes after a nasty shoulder injury riding a 125cc Bike to work. Now with due pressure from his friends he has realised his folly and looking forward to riding again. We have discussed a few more rides and a few more FarRides as well. He just needs a new bike with Luggage attached.
I haven't looked into the Suzuki luggage options.
The Kawasaki version is very good.
The same box's fit multiple models. The H2 has a 4 into 1 but both box's come with heat shields.
There are no ugly frames or mounting kits, they attach securely to the grab handles and rear pegs.
The locks are easily set to use the bikes ignition key.
The lids and side strips are easily changed so you can go plain black or colour coded.
I'm not sure how this compares to the Suzuki set up ?
The luggage (and centre stand) were a couple of things I think the Busa should have had as options.
When shopping for my tourer, I tested a triumph GT and actually made an offer, the seller wanted more so it didn't work out. It had matching panniers and top box, that 3 cylinder 1050cc motor is sweet. Bike was as new, beautiful red metallic matching everything.
Ended up with the BMW-K-1300-GT for the same money I was offering for the Triumph, glad I did, the Triumph is actually pretty cramped, but im 6'2", so the triumph gt may suit shorter riders.
Rang today no GSX 1000 GT to test ride. Ill keep eye on this one, seems like a great bike.
Quote from: grog on Monday, 24 October 2022, 07:20 PM
Rang today no GSX 1000 GT to test ride. Ill keep eye on this one, seems like a great bike.
The Kawasaki Ninja 1000 would be a good alternative or comparison.
(https://i.ibb.co/Lrn27Wy/FA0-A001-F-7173-4-D25-B70-F-16-AE243235-D9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pQJ9F8T)
(https://i.ibb.co/MMsSBwJ/6-C5-BC953-2-A13-4721-A4-CE-436-ECE116-CF9.jpg) (https://ibb.co/3B7dR6P)
I recorded the ride from Saturday and just put it up on YouTube.
Again no heroic's, more test of my own durability on a sports bike.
It's a bit long though, 25 minutes, perhaps I should have gone faster...
VOCFmMjNHBo
I like Mundaring Weir. The run through the Bickley Valley and up to Gidgegannup is also nice.
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Tuesday, 25 October 2022, 09:57 AM
I like Mundaring Weir. The run through the Bickley Valley and up to Gidgegannup is also nice.
Good roads, I like O'Briens Rd & Berri Rd out that way as well but not on Sundays, too many riders cross the white line going too hot into the tight corners. Even keeping to the far left I've nearly been cleaned up, fun when it's quiet. I have friend with a property in Nannup I will be visiting soon, there's great roads down there...some Kangaroos too but it's all good.
Off topic I know, but imho the best riding road in WA is from Albany to Walpole and further to bremer bay. Along the southern coast. Once out of Bremer Bay it's flat and boring to Esperance. The run to albany is not too bad if you stick to secondary roads.
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 17 May 2022, 05:57 PM
Agree totally, had a look in show room new GSXR1000, really couldnt believe can size. Salesman kept muttering on about changing it to Akra, re tuning etc etc. Dollar figures were like a politicians wages.No wonder Suzuki going broke.
Won't be an issue soon. Other counties don't follow Euro 5 but it's common for models that get dropped in the EU to later be dropped elsewhere.
Another Suzuki bites the dust.
(https://i.ibb.co/R39mrJX/76128-E08-F95-B-481-D-AAB6-1-D17-E1-D78493.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gS3pqc0)
Watch the second-hand prices shoot up for these now.
Nowhere near the numbers available for a normally aspirated Gen-1 or 2 yet, but it's good to see progress being made on the Gen-3's.
A 242hp street mods.
(https://i.ibb.co/B6XTrZW/766390-D2-2-A44-4-DAF-B02-F-D6751-FB6-AB01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jpfry76)
It'll be interesting to see if / when they do a stroker kit for the 3.
https://carpenterracing.com/sbp_busa99-07.htm
Word is that although the 3 isn't as easy to build for big numbers is design is more biased to keeping it all in one piece with serious horsepower.
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Monday, 07 November 2022, 06:58 PM
Watch the second-hand prices shoot up for these now.
Maybe.
I'm currently looking at Gen-2 Busa's and it was questionable which way the prices would go.
Some thought the 3 would mean the 2's were worth less and outdated or less in demand.
Some thought the 2's would be more in demand as they are currently more tuneable and still well below the 3's current prices.
So far the prices just seem to be holding firm and maybe creeping up a little.
I'd certainly not be surprised to see the 1000 do similar. Many big Suzuki's from the old Kats, early GSXR's, to Gen-1 Busa's and tidy 14's do seem to be safe money. Some of the early Bandit 12's and going for more than the Mk-2's, and in more demand than the later 1250's.
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 29 November 2022, 07:45 AM
Nowhere near the numbers available for a normally aspirated Gen-1 or 2 yet, but it's good to see progress being made on the Gen-3's.
A 242hp street mods.
(https://i.ibb.co/B6XTrZW/766390-D2-2-A44-4-DAF-B02-F-D6751-FB6-AB01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jpfry76)
Not too bad, but what are the numbers for a Gen 1 or 2 then Tony?
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Tuesday, 29 November 2022, 10:09 AM
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 29 November 2022, 07:45 AM
Nowhere near the numbers available for a normally aspirated Gen-1 or 2 yet, but it's good to see progress being made on the Gen-3's.
A 242hp street mods.
(https://i.ibb.co/B6XTrZW/766390-D2-2-A44-4-DAF-B02-F-D6751-FB6-AB01.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Jpfry76)
Not too bad, but what are the numbers for a Gen 1 or 2 then Tony?
Gen-1...
https://carpenterracing.com/sbp_busa99-07.htm
Gen-2's have better cams and bigger throttle bodies than the new 3, but the 2 didn't have a hope of meeting the emissions specs the 3 does. This originally meant the new Gen-3 lagged a bit behind in the go-faster world, (plus it gave the haters some ammunition to slag it off despite the fact the 3 actually accelerated harder and faster). Folk are now dropping in cams and boring the 3's throttle body's so the 2 doesn't have those advantages any longer.
For those who like the busa, get one of these.
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/2002/september/suzuki-hayabusa-turbo/
Incredible mjgt, hard to imagine. Posted b4 i rode my Mates 14, long time ago. Rotex supercharger, very ugly but he likes it. Think it was around 180 bhp, sure could go.I totally enjoyed, so much grunt, not scary just power. That was around 8 yrs ago i rode it. He has it in pieces, wants 300, no idea why, just what he does. Old video of same set up his was. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bbg4uA9IXyk
BigCC Racing did a video recently.
They had a Supercharged Gen-2 Busa in running 18lb of boost making 280hp.
When they ran one of their chargecoolers it made a extra 20hp, still at 18lb on the same bike.
They later removed all this and on the same bike ran one of their turbo kits, the same bike at the same 18lb of boost made 450hp.
I was really interested in the supercharger kits, but the turbo's have so many advantages, same hp on less boost, heaps more options and heaps more back up. Dodge built a supercharged Busa for the world wheelie comp and I thought it made sense, you really need controllable power up on one wheel not just outright numbers, but the turbo bikes still beat it.