Hi anyone fitted one of these S-TRE its from AutoStar, and if so did it make any noticeable difference to the bikes performance in any way?
thanks
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRE-GSX1400-TL1000-SV1000-GSXR-600-750-1000-HAYABUSA/170385346282?hash=item27abc20eea:g:lmsAAMXQUmFSn3po
TRE's are a thing to avoid - have been known to cause wiring fires in the past.
If you want to advance your timing, then save your money and do this mod
https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=144.0
Has same effect as a TRE. And doesn't cost you a penny.
TRE's don't improve performance. As well as removing the pairs valves, they will not make the bike run any smoother.
As
@gsxbarmy said avoid a TRE as they are known to cause problems.
Fit an ignition advance wheel or do the mod as said in his link
. :cheers:
thanks guys ive just seen a rotor on ebay that is meant to do the job, if it is any good i dont know? but would save on filing
thanks
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fits-Suzuki-GSX1400-SPS-Ignition-Advancer-4-degree-Bolt-on-Horsepower/362100593355?epid=646446472&hash=item544ee092cb:g:75QAAOSwDD9Zyjcc
Quote from: seano on Friday, 15 January 2021, 10:04 PM
thanks guys ive just seen a rotor on ebay that is meant to do the job, if it is any good i dont know? but would save on filing
thanks
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fits-Suzuki-GSX1400-SPS-Ignition-Advancer-4-degree-Bolt-on-Horsepower/362100593355?epid=646446472&hash=item544ee092cb:g:75QAAOSwDD9Zyjcc
That's the thing
@seano, as suggested by
@seth does the same job as a TRE and/or the mod I mentioned above, but is dead easy to fit
yeah thanks barmy think il go the easy route and get one :)
They don't do exactly the same thing though do they?
This is from memory as it's a mod I've never been interested in doing -
TREs only work in the first three or four gears where the ECU normally retards the timing to make the engine a bit less responsive & snatchy. As I understand it a TRE just fools the ECU into thinking the bike is always in sixth?
With the modified rota you'll get the normal full advance in the gears the ECU normally retards & then extra advance in the top few gears. Now I know loads run them without issue, but it may restrict your choice of fuel if you go places you can only buy low octane stuff.
ok Hooli so id have to run it on a premium grade fuel then?
Quote from: seano on Saturday, 16 January 2021, 03:54 AM
ok Hooli so id have to run it on a premium grade fuel then?
I think most people who run them use normal fuel.
I was just thinking it might cause issues abroad with E10 as I know that burns differently, I can't recall if it's faster or slower burning though.
Thats the reason i went for Healtech, advance on 5&6 remained stock. Though someone on here recently bought one and was no good. Mines been perfect for around 7 yrs. maybe their quality has slipped, no idea really.
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Friday, 15 January 2021, 06:51 PM
TRE's are a thing to avoid - have been known to cause wiring fires in the past.
If you want to advance your timing, then save your money and do this mod
https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=144.0
Has same effect as a TRE. And doesn't cost you a penny.
The correct timing depends on your other mods.
I made those longer holes and tested it several times. The best result ( in my case ) was 2° advanced.
T24, back when cars had distributors, out on the road and move until it ran best. Have done that countless times.
Quote from: grog on Saturday, 16 January 2021, 05:16 PM
T24, back when cars had distributors, out on the road and move until it ran best. Have done that countless times.
Just the same method :onya:
Its a pity 14 didnt come with OBD 2 plug. We would have a lot more tuning gadgets to talk about. They sell a gadget around here, for diesel utes/ svu etc. $299 fitted. All it does is change throttle ratio, about 1/3 quicker. They all rave about increased performance. It does nothing except they move their foot less. Placebo affect.All the diesel blokes buy lots.
Quote from: grog on Saturday, 16 January 2021, 05:35 PM
Its a pity 14 didnt come with OBD 2 plug. We would have a lot more tuning gadgets to talk about. They sell a gadget around here, for diesel utes/ svu etc. $299 fitted. All it does is change throttle ratio, about 1/3 quicker. They all rave about increased performance. It does nothing except they move their foot less. Placebo affect.All the diesel blokes buy lots.
LOL! Nice one Grog!
Quote from: grog on Saturday, 16 January 2021, 05:35 PM
Its a pity 14 didnt come with OBD 2 plug. We would have a lot more tuning gadgets to talk about. They sell a gadget around here, for diesel utes/ svu etc. $299 fitted. All it does is change throttle ratio, about 1/3 quicker. They all rave about increased performance. It does nothing except they move their foot less. Placebo affect.All the diesel blokes buy lots.
Years ago when I had a Tdi Landy I did the same mod on a mechanical pump. By turning the fueling pin it richened up quicker as you put your foot down. But then I tweaked the base adjuster so it had more fueling off boost so there wasn't a dead spot when crawling slowly off road & turned up the max fueling screw so it didn't run out of extra power halfway down the pedal. I wound the boost up from 12psi to 21psi too...
Nothing really changes except how you make the same mods.
Way back in 1986, Holden Commodore/ Nissan Skyline. 6 cyl injected. ECU had a screw, two LED near it. Green was rich, Red was lean. Just hold whatever revs, adjust screw until both blinking, perfect fuelling. So simple and worked. I guess it was not employed afterwards as no one making money off it.
I fun on normal grade pumped fuel.
I do use premium grade fuel ever now and that's to give the injection system a clean as it has more cleaning additives but for general riding about standard grade fuel is just fine .
:cheers:
Seth, exact same as me.
i drive a diesel too!!!!!! LOL :clapping: