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Title: Winter has arrived
Post by: Milts on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 08:03 AM
         
  Hadn't realised winter had arrived!


I decided to Sorn both bikes from 1st October where they will be garaged under cover in a nearby block, condensation is always an issue during the winter months.

So this year i thought i'd buy some vacuum bags to store the bikes in,  BUT instead i decided to try using that ACF50 product instead as mentioned here on the forum so l ordered some in during the summer,my thinking is i can tinker with the bikes as and when, rather than have them locked and cocooned away.

So far the weather has been quite mild here, so today i decided to go into the garage and give the bikes a bit of TLC with this ACF50 stuff before winter really kicks in. I uncovered the 14 and  :furious:...... FFS that white looking furry corrosion has already started to attack some areas wasn't expecting that!

So i applied  ACF50 pretty damned quick.  Will be checking the bikes more closely now. Luckily the GSXR was hardly affected. 


We currently have our house on the market so having a proper brick built garage attached to the house is high on my list for our next move  :)
Hoping the bikes will get better protected. 
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Big Phil on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 09:11 AM
My bike is garaged and stored under 2 bike covers and additional blankets with a greenhouse electric tube heater positioned under the stand and running between the wheels. I have set the heater to turn on when the temperature drops below 10C. I haven't tried the heater approach before but am hoping this will prevent any condensation and corrosion issues. The heater costs pennies to run and seems to be doing it's job so far. I check and start the bike at least once a week to make sure she's okay and to admire her😍😍😍
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 06:36 PM
Quote from: Big Phil on Tuesday, 24 November  2020, 09:11 AM
My bike is garaged and stored under 2 bike covers and additional blankets with a greenhouse electric tube heater positioned under the stand and running between the wheels. I have set the heater to turn on when the temperature drops below 10C. I haven't tried the heater approach before but am hoping this will prevent any condensation and corrosion issues. The heater costs pennies to run and seems to be doing it's job so far. I check and start the bike at least once a week to make sure she's okay and to admire her😍😍😍

All good - except the starting each week. If you just start and let her tick over for a few mins then stop her, then this is doing more damage than good. It's a common misconception that doing this is "good for the engine", as by nature of being a combustion engine, you get condensation and acids which get into the oil - most of this is burnt off by use, but if you continually start/stop an engine, then they never do and over the winter months it all builds up inside the engine. If you are not going to ride her, then heave her switched off and tucked up with an Optimate.

The other thing I would suggest is putting a cotton sheet over the bike before any other covers as this helps air circulate - bit like a room, you need air circulation to stop condensation etc building up, same applies with a bike, you need to allow air to circulate around it (even very gently).
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: GSXKING on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 08:04 PM
My deepest sympathies gents  :stir: :stir: I've not ever considered winterising a bike in Brisbane. If it ever hits 10 deg here it's newsworthy  :hat: :hat:
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Irish in Oz on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 08:38 PM
It's not winter on my back deck, took this few days ago.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Mick_J on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 08:56 PM
I always keep at least one bike on the road over winter, there's plenty of dry days to get out and about on a bike.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Batkwaka on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 09:11 PM
Quote from: GSXKING on Tuesday, 24 November  2020, 08:04 PM
My deepest sympathies gents  :stir: :stir: I've not ever considered winterising a bike in Brisbane. If it ever hits 10 deg here it's newsworthy  :hat: :hat:
Same here in Perth, usually 3 degrees Celsius is the coldest it gets over Winter.
No wonder we started a colony! 🔆
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Big Phil on Tuesday, 24 November 2020, 11:53 PM
Well that's interesting Barmy as regards starting. I do leave her running for 10/15 minutes but I get your point so will try to avoid it. I do like to hear her running though. Also the covers I use are the indoor Oxford stretch ones as they are breathable as I was aware they help circulation.

As regards riding through winter MJ (well on sunny days like today) I'm going use my old SRAD for that very reason as well as a few track days once she is back on the road.




Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 12:10 AM
Worst thing you can do with an engine is let it idle cold too, low oil pressure & max clearances add up to extra wear. Just leave the thing, it'll be fine.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Tally on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 02:44 AM
I live in a ground floor apartment so my bike lives outside under a thermal cover ,yesterday morning (mon) I leave for work at 5.30am and find that I have to defrost the car. The temp gauge in the car is reading +3 degrees so as soon as I got home from work I whipped out the battery which is now indoors, I am not forking out for another one because of the cold killing it like my last one,it'll go back in when it needs to. :onya:
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 03:19 AM
Quote from: Tally on Wednesday, 25 November  2020, 02:44 AM
I live in a ground floor apartment so my bike lives outside under a thermal cover ,yesterday morning (mon) I leave for work at 5.30am and find that I have to defrost the car. The temp gauge in the car is reading +3 degrees so as soon as I got home from work I whipped out the battery which is now indoors, I am not forking out for another one because of the cold killing it like my last one,it'll go back in when it needs to. :onya:

I always wonder if that invalidates insurance if you've got an alarm declared with them?
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 06:12 PM
Yeah, so glad i dont have to worry about Winter storage or salted roads. Coldest ive had here last 30 years was 2 degrees, usually not below 6. Other side is huge rains and humidity in Summer. Forecast for next Sunday is 39. 2016 had 48 degrees, hard to describe how hot. It gets tough to to put riding gear on, but i do. I prefer hot to cold.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 07:15 PM
We are tougher over here.
@grog  and the 2 degrees is in the middle of the night when your tucked up on bed, come 8 a.m. it's shot up to 10 degrees.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 07:19 PM
Not always Irish, I rode in 4 this year, around 6.30. 48 was in 2014, not 16, i just checked.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: GSXKING on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 08:15 PM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 25 November  2020, 07:15 PM
We are tougher over here.
@grog  and the 2 degrees is in the middle of the night when your tucked up on bed, come 8 a.m. it's shot up to 10 degrees.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH  :stir: :stir: :stir: :stir: :stir:
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 08:30 PM
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 25 November  2020, 07:19 PM
Not always Irish, I rode in 4 this year, around 6.30. 48 was in 2014, not 16, i just checked.

I live on the Central Coast between Sydney and Newcastle so we get an ocean breeze but that heatwave in 2014 I was in Leeton NSW was similar temp couldn't sleep for about three nights.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 25 November 2020, 08:54 PM
Irish, that 48 day was a Saturday. Wife at work in A/C, me home. I had 12 swims and drank 24 stubbies. All i could do. Not sure of my mpg that day, not a lot.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 26 November 2020, 07:51 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 25 November  2020, 07:15 PM
We are tougher over here.

Yeah that's what people who live in shitty climates always say :P
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Hooli on Thursday, 26 November 2020, 08:14 AM
Nah shitty climates are the ones that regularly go above 25c, that's just pure hell.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 26 November 2020, 08:44 AM
It's all what ya get used to, cold n damp or warm n dry.  Know which I prefer . . .
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 27 November 2020, 07:00 AM
Sounds like your going all soft. I still remember the times on the trawler fishing the Irish Sea off Dublin in the summer.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 27 November 2020, 07:05 AM
Quote from: VladTepes on Thursday, 26 November  2020, 07:51 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 25 November  2020, 07:15 PM
We are tougher over here.

Yeah that's what people who live in shitty climates always say :P

I can change that if I choose but after 30+years I need to build my strength up again.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: grog on Friday, 27 November 2020, 07:11 AM
Heatwave predicted here, starting Sunday. Not looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 27 November 2020, 07:29 AM
Quote from: grog on Friday, 27 November  2020, 07:11 AM
Heatwave predicted here, starting Sunday. Not looking forward to it.
Grog as a young man in my mid twenties the heat never bothered me at all, but as I got towards the fifty mark I started noticing it, late fifties I stopped working because of it, April to September in Oz will suit me now.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Roo on Saturday, 28 November 2020, 06:19 AM
Coming right here  (NZ)...   tho still getting lots O drizzle. 

Got a window of fine today so will get out on the ride on mower (with my music in headphones). Save the ride for after the next rain ,maybe Wed.????
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Johno on Saturday, 28 November 2020, 02:36 PM
Not quite summer here yet but 41/42 today in western Sydney and the same forecast again tomorrow.

I agree with Irish April to September are the best riding months. Early morning rides are best in the warmer months here.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: grog on Saturday, 28 November 2020, 05:06 PM
Johno, we're supposed to get same tomorrow.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Johno on Saturday, 28 November 2020, 07:26 PM
Grog,

same down this way as well. 43 at Sydney airport around 4pm this afternoon.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: Irish in Oz on Saturday, 28 November 2020, 07:42 PM
I can hear the hum of the AirCons from here.
Title: Re: Winter has arrived
Post by: SFC1000 on Saturday, 28 November 2020, 07:51 PM
I've got the Aircons on now and the pool is just right. Got a 10am to 2pm shift tomorrow outside in the middle of it. Thank f"!* it's only 4 hrs.