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General => Bike Chat => Topic started by: Alan Moreton on Saturday, 12 September 2020, 10:41 PM

Title: PAIRS removal.
Post by: Alan Moreton on Saturday, 12 September 2020, 10:41 PM
Afternoon all.

Thought I might just mention that I have eventually got around to removing the PAIRS on my 2003 60,000 miler, that i have had from new.

I was getting a slightly jerky motion at about 30 mph which according to the forum could be attributed to the PAIRS. 

So I obtained a kit which include the two alloy plates, new bolts and the two blanking bungs needed.  The longest part of the job is popping the tank off!  I thought that the new plates had a quite a thin mating surface, so elected to re-fit the reed valve holders after removing the reed valves themselves.

I have been very pleased with the result.  The engine is much smoother especially at the low to mid range (ie: 30 mph in 2 or 3rd gear).  So I'm well pleased.

Of course this won't come as a surprise to those orgsters who have already done the mod.  :grin:

Keep safe

Chip.
Title: Re: PAIRS removal.
Post by: numbskull on Monday, 14 September 2020, 09:31 PM
The symptoms sound just like mine. Feels like a very subtle misfire and makes riding slowly around town a bit tiring.

Could you provide a link for the kit?
Title: Re: PAIRS removal.
Post by: Notty on Tuesday, 15 September 2020, 06:32 AM
Quote from: numbskull on Monday, 14 September  2020, 09:31 PM
The symptoms sound just like mine. Feels like a very subtle misfire and makes riding slowly around town a bit tiring.

Could you provide a link for the kit?
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PAIR-Valve-Removal-kit-with-SMOG-block-off-plates-Suzuki-GSX-1400-all-models/253623301434?hash=item3b0d20753a:g:J-QAAOSwMnde2MEC
Title: Re: PAIRS removal.
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 15 September 2020, 08:04 AM
@numbskull If you read the PAIRS removal thread, there are 3-4 links for kits throughout the thread itself, choose which one you prefer (thanks @Notty I've added the link above to the end of the thread)

https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=310.0
Title: Re: PAIRS removal.
Post by: GSX1400Convert on Wednesday, 16 September 2020, 06:54 PM
A very interesting read, thanks for the links on previous threads. I have an aftermarket 4/2 and can say in all honesty, the only time I have noticed backfiring and popping was while fanging it at very high altitude, higher than anything we have in Australia  :mwink:

I wouldn't mind making the mod anyway.

Title: Re: PAIRS removal.
Post by: Alan Moreton on Tuesday, 22 September 2020, 06:51 AM
Quote from: numbskull on Monday, 14 September  2020, 09:31 PM
The symptoms sound just like mine. Feels like a very subtle misfire and makes riding slowly around town a bit tiring.

Could you provide a link for the kit?
Hi Numbskull.  Apologies for a late reply. I've been away for a few days.  I found this on e-bay.  Very quick response and good comms with updates on the delivery.  Arrived as promised.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/smartmoto_electronics

Hope this helps, if you haven't sorted it already.

Regards

Chip
Title: Re: PAIRS removal.
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 22 September 2020, 07:57 PM
Reading today, GSXR people use PAIRS as a pump to create negative vacuum in crank case. Worth 2 bhp they say. Never heard of b4 today, have a google. Not something i want but a good read/can of worms.
Title: Re: PAIRS removal.
Post by: GSX1400Convert on Wednesday, 23 September 2020, 08:33 AM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 22 September  2020, 07:57 PM
Reading today, GSXR people use PAIRS as a pump to create negative vacuum in crank case. Worth 2 bhp they say. Never heard of b4 today, have a google. Not something i want but a good read/can of worms.

Run a GSXR without any crankcase vacuum, and oil pisses out from cam cover, and anywhere that has a poor seal ............ ask me how I know. OK don't ask, you've already worked it out.
Title: Re: PAIRS removal.
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 23 September 2020, 07:19 PM
Block off crank breather instead of PAIRS hose, see how much smoke a 14 can make. No idea how i know that.  :laugh: