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Title: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Notty on Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 03:53 AM
I bought new HEL Braided lines in 2018 but within a few months they discoloured and HEL replaced them with no quibble last year. I only just put the new ones on - The same problem has occurred , discolouration - faulty batch? The rear and front line from master cylinder to splitter are fine, only the 2 from the splitter to the callipers seem affected ? Awaiting response from HEL  :bugga:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Del on Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 04:04 AM
is that not heat from the exhaust that may be causing that

Del
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Irish in Oz on Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 04:16 AM
I have had a similar problem on one side but there was a leak in that fork seal and I reckoned it was from oil blowing back onto hose.
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Notty on Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 05:51 AM
Quote from: Del on Tuesday, 23 June  2020, 04:04 AM
is that not heat from the exhaust that may be causing that

Del
Bike has only done 50 miles since fitted - the last ones all went, from master cylinder to splitter to each calliper and the rear !!  :bugga:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 07:09 AM
Looks like rust, you're washing it too much!

Seriously though, it's about the right height for water to catch in the weave?
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 08:10 AM
Notty, put the OEM rubber ones back on or change to gold braided lines, that way you won't see any discolouration.  :whistling: :happy1:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: T250 on Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 04:46 PM
Had the same problem on another bike, the lines went like yours, (I think they might have been a different manufacturer), so I covered them in a coloured heat wrap
.
The ones I bought for the 1400 were a dark colour anyway, so they still look good.
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: GSXKING on Tuesday, 23 June 2020, 05:14 PM
I'd actually say a lack of use  :stir: :stir: :stir: :stir: however ....................................................




Nah I've got nothin  :cheers:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Basil Brush on Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 05:00 AM
Notty. Same happened to me. Contact HEL that's a clear fault with the lines. They should replace - they did in my case. Mine all went brown on the insides too.
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Notty on Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 06:39 AM
Quote from: Basil Brush on Wednesday, 24 June  2020, 05:00 AM
Notty. Same happened to me. Contact HEL that's a clear fault with the lines. They should replace - they did in my case. Mine all went brown on the insides too.
have done - awaiting a reply - its the second set  :bugga:
@Basil Brush
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 06:55 AM
Originals look better & don't do that  :stir:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Basil Brush on Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 06:57 AM
Dear me. At least they come with a lifetime guarantee. I just have two front lines - no splitter.
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 07:51 AM
2 longer lines you don't need a splitter easier(ish) to bleed and better performance that way .
:cheers:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 08:05 AM
It shouldn't make any difference to performance, you're still moving the same amount of fluid at the master cylinder with the same leverage on the calipers.
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 12:52 PM
How early? Bon Scott early?
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: GSXKING on Wednesday, 24 June 2020, 05:48 PM
Mine are Hel lines in mid blue colour with titanium fittings and have been on the bike for 10 years cannot fault them.
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Notty on Thursday, 25 June 2020, 10:46 PM
HEL offered to change full set again - they have escalated the problem to the manufacturer. So I can either wait or choose a different colour...... ???
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Hooli on Thursday, 25 June 2020, 11:00 PM
Brown so the stains don't show?  :stir:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Notty on Thursday, 25 June 2020, 11:00 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 25 June  2020, 11:00 PM
Brown so the stains don't show?  :stir:
could get a brown seat at the same time 1! :rofl2:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Hooli on Thursday, 25 June 2020, 11:23 PM
You will when the brakes fail  :lol:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Notty on Friday, 26 June 2020, 12:50 AM
Ordered translucent Blue with Blue banjos  :)
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: T250 on Friday, 26 June 2020, 03:25 AM
Quote from: Notty on Friday, 26 June  2020, 12:50 AM
Ordered translucent Blue with Blue banjos  :)

Fastest brakes in the West Notty?... :lol:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 26 June 2020, 04:48 AM
Quote from: Notty on Thursday, 25 June  2020, 10:46 PM
HEL offered to change full set again - they have escalated the problem to the manufacturer. So I can either wait or choose a different colour...... ???

So HEL are not the manufacturer, so they get them made in China.
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Notty on Friday, 26 June 2020, 07:00 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Friday, 26 June  2020, 04:48 AM
Quote from: Notty on Thursday, 25 June  2020, 10:46 PM
HEL offered to change full set again - they have escalated the problem to the manufacturer. So I can either wait or choose a different colour...... ???

So HEL are not the manufacturer, so they get them made in China.
These were from a pre packed set, so as the bike out of production for so long would have thought it a bit of a waste trying to sort it?   ???
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 26 June 2020, 07:18 AM
They'll be made as a massive roll of hose & then cut to length I'd have thought. So still made & just cut to different sizes.
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Notty on Friday, 26 June 2020, 05:39 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Friday, 26 June  2020, 07:18 AM
They'll be made as a massive roll of hose & then cut to length I'd have thought. So still made & just cut to different sizes.
agree new ones will be just made of big rolls  but Both packs I have bought were in a vacuum sealed packaging with a complete set, my guess they were made and put on the shelf a long time ago  :bugga:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Basil Brush on Sunday, 28 June 2020, 12:51 AM
No matter how you look at it. Shit quality that must be costing them more in the long run. By offering a lifetime guarantee.

I thought they were made in the UK in Exeter?

If they are made in China that'll explain the shit quality.  :thumbs_down:
Title: Re: HEL Braided lines
Post by: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 28 June 2020, 05:08 AM
Of coarse the big roll and fittings are made in China, and put together by Chinese in Exeter.