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Technically Speaking => General Technical discussion => Topic started by: Dusty ST on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 12:19 AM

Title: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Dusty ST on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 12:19 AM
Poor bike hasn't run for a couple of months, I'm thinking I should change the oil next weekend...
I was thinking I should do it cold.
I'd guess the oil has drained down as much as it's going to by now, and I can leave it a couple of days with the sump plug out to drain the dregs.
Any thoughts, should I warm it up first?
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: T 24 on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 01:03 AM
Warm up it first. So you can get all sludge and condense water out with oil.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Del on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 02:03 AM
I do mine warm because I have a wee tap instead of a sump plug
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Dusty ST on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 02:05 AM
Quote from: T 24 on Wednesday, 13 May  2020, 01:03 AM
Warm up it first. So you can get all sludge and condense water out with oil.

Yep, didn't think of that. Warm it is  :onya:
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 06:46 AM
Best if you can do it when the bikes nice and hot
:cheers:
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 07:04 AM
I run the bike long enough for the oil cooler to be warm to the touch. Any hotter & you burn your fingers when you drop the sump plug in the hot oil after putting them on the hot sump as you took the plug out.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 10:18 AM
Fumoto
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: DP1400 on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 04:37 PM
Always warm your oil first, then burn yourself on the hot pipes. Job done. No pain, no gain!! ;)
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: GSXKING on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 04:44 PM
I do the same, just to warm up oil etc. I also make a funnel out of alfoil to cover the top of my 4-1 headers and direct the flow into the drain tin sooner than have it pour over the headers/collector. I always disconnect the kerb side oil cooler hose to access the filter. I let it drain overnight also. :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Snapey on Wednesday, 13 May 2020, 06:42 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 13 May  2020, 10:18 AM
Fumoto

That's if it's still there after hitting that speed hump.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Dusty ST on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 05:47 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 13 May  2020, 10:18 AM
Fumoto

I quite like the Stahlbus version of this, but it's a tad pricey, looks to be a bit lower profile too?

http://www.stahlbus.com/products/en/index.php
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 05:58 PM
Would I be right in saying 22mm long.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 06:03 PM
I cant remember size of thread.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: grog on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 06:28 PM
GSX, i know your alfoil funnel works and is cheap but spend $30, Ryco flexi funnel, brilliant thing to have in tool kit.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: longo on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 07:08 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 13 May  2020, 10:18 AM
Fumoto

       got one on mine saves stripping the thread on the sump plug if your heavy handed like me
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Dusty ST on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 07:08 PM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 14 May  2020, 06:03 PM
I cant remember size of thread.

Looks to be M14x1.25
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: GSXKING on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 08:19 PM
Quote from: grog on Thursday, 14 May  2020, 06:28 PM
GSX, i know your alfoil funnel works and is cheap but spend $30, Ryco flexi funnel, brilliant thing to have in tool kit.

Can you post a pic @grog please  :cheers:
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: GSXKING on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 08:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa0kmqZlTOM no need for pics @grog  :clapping:
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Mick_J on Thursday, 14 May 2020, 10:18 PM
Looks like a sheepee for bikes  :whistling:
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 15 May 2020, 04:47 AM
Quote from: Dusty ST on Thursday, 14 May  2020, 07:08 PM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 14 May  2020, 06:03 PM
I cant remember size of thread.

Looks to be M14x1.25

22mm according to the chart. How long is the Fumoto.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: KiwiCol on Friday, 15 May 2020, 08:06 AM
I have a 'somewhat worse for wear' specimen on my work bench, I'll measure it tonight, beer permitting . . .
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 15 May 2020, 01:29 PM
Quote from: Dusty ST on Thursday, 14 May  2020, 05:47 PM
I quite like the Stahlbus version of this, but it's a tad pricey, looks to be a bit lower profile too?
http://www.stahlbus.com/products/en/index.php

Looks like a great idea particularly in application shown where drain of sump. BUT as it relies on being able to plug the hose to it, that may not be readily possible depending on after market exhaust placement etc.

It does get around the apparent risk inherent in potentially stripping the thread from the hole etc when reinstalling sump plug each time.


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Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Dusty ST on Friday, 15 May 2020, 06:01 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Friday, 15 May  2020, 08:06 AM
I have a 'somewhat worse for wear' specimen on my work bench, I'll measure it tonight, beer permitting . . .

Lucky Kiwi's are allowed out for a beer  :cheers:
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: KiwiCol on Friday, 15 May 2020, 08:12 PM
Just been out for a look & it' appears it has met it's fate some time previous as it's now gone.   but I think it'd be about 30mm hanging down (that's on a good day!)
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: grog on Friday, 15 May 2020, 08:43 PM
28.575 mm after screwed in.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 15 May 2020, 09:53 PM
Approximately anyway  :whistling:
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: Irish in Oz on Saturday, 16 May 2020, 01:07 AM
So it's about a quarter of an inch longer.
Title: Re: Oil change hot or cold?
Post by: grog on Saturday, 16 May 2020, 05:17 PM
Hooli, yeah just a rough measure.  :grin: Just what web site dimensions said.