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Technically Speaking => Electrics => Topic started by: Iain on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 02:40 AM

Title: It won't beat me
Post by: Iain on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 02:40 AM
Right. Ive got a K2.
Only had it four weeks. In that time, I've had to seal the tank because of a pin prick hole and a new  battery.
When stood still it will rev to 8700.
But, out on the road, any quick throttle twists will make it cough but accelerate to 4500 rpm, then start to splutter
If you slowly open the throttle, it will make 5000 rpm. Then splutter and won't go any faster.
If you give it a fist full at 5000 rpm, it just splutters and dies.
I've checked the coils, plug caps, TPS, even fitted a new fuel pump. But, no. Nowt, zilch, sweet fa. It still won't pull over 4500.
Just rang previous owner he said he never had that problem. But, he fitted a twist grip from a GSxr 1000 and then it spluttered at 4500 but he could still get it to 7-8000 rpm.
Any ideas would be greatfully appreciated before I decide to break it for spares
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Andre on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 02:49 AM
Cleaned the high pressure filter? Secured the white clip that keeps the pressure regulator in place?
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 04:43 AM
What Andre said - but then I do wonder about that twist grip and whether the cables are adjusted correctly as it turns. I'd also fit the standard twist grip back.

One other thought - you mention a pin prick in the tank - do check and clean the tea bag on the filter could well be that the pump is full of crud and isn't pumping enough juice through

https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=430.0

Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Iain on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 05:51 AM
It had a new pump and teabag filter fitted yesterday. I replaced them hoping it would get rid of this problem but the problem still exists.
The bike didn't come with the original throttle.
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 06:40 AM
TPS & STPS adjusted & working correctly?
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Iain on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 06:45 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 16 April  2020, 06:40 AM
TPS & STPS adjusted & working correctly?
TPS is bang on. Will check stps tomorrow.
Would a faulty fuel regulator also do the same problems as I am experiencing ?
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 07:04 AM
Similar, but usually the bike won't start. 

I know it's a new pump n filter, but a check on the flow rate & pressure may be in order here. 

I was thinking after reading, it sounds like fuel & the secondarys in particular.  Snapey has posted about a magnet in there coming loose & causing weird shit running too. 
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Snapey on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 10:12 AM
Quote from: Iain on Thursday, 16 April  2020, 05:51 AM
It had a new pump and teabag filter fitted yesterday. I replaced them hoping it would get rid of this problem but the problem still exists.
The bike didn't come with the original throttle.

A new pump and tea bag will do SFA if you don't do the high pressure filter. You can try back flushing it with carby cleaner but that's only a temporary fix. An external filter is the better option.
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Iain on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 04:18 PM
Morning Snapey.
Just woke up to your reply.
I could well be interested in doing that mod. Is it you've done yourself ?  And if you did, what did you do ?
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: grog on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 05:29 PM
I reckon high pressure is your prob, certainly sounds like. External mod all on here, have a search. Mines been done quite a while, wasnt even running bad but made it even better. Can of worms on this idea but mine no prob.
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 06:56 PM
Here ya go, have a read of this.


https://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=590.0
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Iain on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 07:24 PM
Thanks Kiwi Col.
Will check it out shortly.
Will check the stps first before I have to disconnect the fuel tank. Those clips are a bastard.
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: GSXKING on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 08:15 PM
You're going to need boxing gloves to win this fight bud. Good luck  :onya: there is some greatly experienced guys here to help you also.  :hat: :hat:
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Iain on Thursday, 16 April 2020, 09:07 PM
Quote from: GSXKING on Thursday, 16 April  2020, 08:15 PM
You're going to need boxing gloves to win this fight bud. Good luck  :onya: there is some greatly experienced guys here to help you also.  :hat: :hat:
Cheers GSXKING
Stps was a little bit out, but whilst tank is off, I will pull fuel pump out again and reverse it, see if some shite comes out.
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Iain on Friday, 17 April 2020, 12:13 AM
Well, I've reset the stps which, when you've got big hands, is bloody awkward.
It was a smidge out.
Also did a heath Robinson bodge on the fuel pressure regulator.
And I took it for a quick spin. Yes, I know we are on lock down, but it was essential. 😁😁😁
What a feckin difference it's made. No spluttering. It revs all the way through to the red line, no problem.
I will get round to getting rid of the high pressure filter, one day.

Thank you everyone for your advice 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Title: Re: It won't beat me
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 17 April 2020, 01:56 AM
I just replace the high pressure filter ever 50k miles or so, it's about then the bike starts to slow down.

Not cheap, but I know it'll all work when I'm silly miles from home rather than a custom thing for external filters that'd be harder to fix if the worst happened when away.