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Title: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: Monarchjock on Friday, 27 March 2020, 08:02 PM
I know the person who has started this petition, just like Malta during WW2. If you think it is a worthwhile cause please sign and share.


https://www.change.org/p/boris-johnson-award-the-george-cross-to-the-national-health-service
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: gsxbarmy on Saturday, 28 March 2020, 04:26 PM
Done  :onya:
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: VladTepes on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 02:07 AM
No, award NHS front line WORKERS the George Cross.

Don't let the senior public servants who have been screwing the pooch for years anywhere near it.
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: Hooli on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 02:46 AM
The vast majority of NHS staff are useless, lazy, complacent & pointless.

The minority on the front line are very rarely like that though.
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: seth on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 04:52 AM
I work for the nhs
I'm not front line I do a fairly important job if you need a wheelchair but other than that were not essential.
The thing that needs to be done after this us to pay the staff that matter properly the cleaners in the wards were they are treating patients with covid-19 are the lowest paid staff in the nhs that's just for starters .
There are to many very highly paid managers already but the people who actually work in the nhs are very much underpaid.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: DP1400 on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 06:08 AM
Anyone thinking that the vast majority of NHS staff are useless, lazy, complacent & pointless is an utter fool.

Anyone assuming that the `front line` are a minority is mis-informed and utterly wrong.

The NHS as an organisation has its problems, yes, however, those problems are not of its own doing, but the governments, both directly through budget cuts, and devolution of responsibilities to GP level, not to mention the closures of A&E departments and entire hospitals nationwide.

I personally owe my life to those amazing people who work for the NHS following a motorcycle accident, my mum likewise after a car accident. We have four wonderful kids, thanks to the NHS managing their birth. The list goes on.......

......and my wife works for the NHS, managing the `front line` in cancer services, and believe me, neither her or any of her staff would put themselves before patient care - which is why its killing me seeing her go to work every day in the face of the current virus situation, but she does it without question, and for the record she is sooooo embarrased at the thought of good meaning folk clapping the NHS on Thursdays, let alone the george cross for the NHS.

What a shame ignorance prevails with a minority of ignorant people. I can`t help wondering who they will call upon in their time of need?
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: grog on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 05:00 PM
I know nothing about UK health system, leave it to you blokes. I have nothing but praise for our Queensland Public system. Some, lots, here knock the hell out of it. Has saved both me and wifes lives. Looked after us many times. Ambulance always been amazing. Doctors,Nurses etc etc , brilliant. Maybe takes a bit longer but i find when im on hospital time, patience required, the help is well worth the wait. Hard job done by total committers i reckon. 👍👏
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: Hooli on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 07:53 PM
Quote from: DP1400 on Sunday, 05 April  2020, 06:08 AM
Anyone thinking that the vast majority of NHS staff are useless, lazy, complacent & pointless is an utter fool.

Anyone assuming that the `front line` are a minority is mis-informed and utterly wrong.

I based my comments on  the work I do in a NHS hospital. We've got an entire office block down the road to house the useless twats who do nothing useful, all over paid twats too. There are a lot more people there than staffing the few wards we've got left. Most of them do nothing useful at all. For example, an 'app support' team who support an app that's got full 3rd party support & don't even run it's servers etc. Data warehouse who just produce reports for other departments that do nothing with them.

I'd include stuff like you do as front-line Seth, you actually do something useful to service users.
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: Mick_J on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 08:11 PM
Sounds very much like you're describing the civil service there hooli, one of the factors that lead me to leave, just couldn't put up the lazy twats any more.
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: Kiwifruit on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 08:29 PM
Quote from: mjgt on Sunday, 05 April  2020, 08:11 PM
Sounds very much like you're describing the civil service there hooli, one of the factors that lead me to leave, just couldn't put up the lazy twats any more.

No different here l'm afraid. Just the same bloated overpaid bureaucracy. While front line is overworked, under staffed, under funded and working with insufficient, outdated, unreliable equipment. Phew !!
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: Andre on Sunday, 05 April 2020, 09:38 PM
Here a nurse was quoted "Shuff your applause into your arses!" I am sure she would say worse about the George Cross. We have 200000 nurses who turned their backs to the profession. Many work in Switzerland or other places. Money is a big issue but it is certainly not the only one. Understaffing is the worst in my opinion.
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 06 April 2020, 03:11 PM
It's the public servants at the top level - the political animals - who will line up to receive the award if it happens and they think They deserve it themselves
Title: Re: Award the NHS the George Cross
Post by: DP1400 on Monday, 06 April 2020, 04:19 PM
Great that we are sharing opinions here, the whole point of a good forum me thinks!
Once this damned virus is beaten lets hope that the political animals governing the NHS are driven to further review and change their current obsession with damaging Services beyond recognition.
Good businesses value and respect the people working at the coalface, and are driven by their ideas. The blinkered top down approach is archaic and  flawed and has no place in the modern workplace.