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Title: Heated Grips
Post by: Mick_J on Saturday, 18 January 2020, 08:15 PM
Finally got round to fitting my heated grips, put a relay in line as well so I didn't forget about them and come back to a flat battery.  Need a dry day now to test them.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: DP1400 on Saturday, 18 January 2020, 08:35 PM
Nice one. I`ve got Oxfords fitted and I wouldn`t be without them - i just switch on, `dial`in the temp req and enjoy the miles. They also help reduce the tingling/numbness I suffer in my hands thanks to helping with my circulation. :onya:
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Mick_J on Saturday, 18 January 2020, 09:01 PM
Got them on my Beamer, love em.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: seth on Saturday, 18 January 2020, 09:55 PM
We have Oxford heated grips on all our bike the earlier ones are wired into a switched live so only on with the ignition the new set are Oxford intelligent ones they know when the bikes running and switch off if they sense the battery voltage dropping when the bikes not running.
Great bits of kit
:cheers:
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Kiwifruit on Sunday, 19 January 2020, 04:52 AM
Oxfords on mine too.Work well.
Like DP14 l use them to help keep the numbness at bay. Seems to do the trick.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: steve porter on Sunday, 19 January 2020, 05:36 AM
Quote from: seth on Saturday, 18 January  2020, 09:55 PM
We have Oxford heated grips on all our bike the earlier ones are wired into a switched live so only on with the ignition the new set are Oxford intelligent ones they know when the bikes running and switch off if they sense the battery voltage dropping when the bikes not running.
Great bits of kit
:cheers:
Curious to know if they turn off if the bike is hooked up to a trickle charger
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: DP1400 on Sunday, 19 January 2020, 07:24 AM
Steve - mine are manually activated, ie. the heater control is also the on/off turn switch. To date i`ve never forgotten to switch them off thankfully. I`m not sure how much juice they take therefore i can`t confidently confirm whether a trickle charge would be enough to compensate for the energy they take from the battery over a significant period of non use. Obviously this whole issue depends on how they`re wired up and as mine were fitted prior to my purchase of the bike, i`m afraid i can offer you a reliable view on that.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 19 January 2020, 08:44 AM
@steve porter
The Oxford v8 controller will switch off after 5 minutes so will need to be reactivated after that, however if you put on a tickle charge within that period I would assume it would stay on, but I have not tried it personally.
If have a straight connection from battery via fuse to this system and never had any problems.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: seth on Sunday, 19 January 2020, 09:57 AM
@steve porter
I've no idea never tried but I will when I get the chance and report back  :cheers:
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Monday, 20 January 2020, 01:35 AM
Should be easy to test, there's an LED on mine that flashes when it goes into battery saver mode so you know what it's doing.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Irish in Oz on Monday, 20 January 2020, 02:36 AM
Just to complicate things the BSM (battery saver mode) can be overridden, I would upload the file but forum will not allow "docx"

You should find it here.
https://app.box.com/s/zm8949z36tm3cqlbc1gezm090efvg3q1
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Big Phil on Friday, 03 April 2020, 09:16 AM
Hi All,  I've ordered a set of Oxford heated premium grips and was wondering where's the best place to mount and fit the heat controller? Any pictures would be especially appreciated.

Thanks
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Nic on Friday, 03 April 2020, 10:28 AM
The Oxford grips come with a bracket but I made my own and fitted as per pic.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Kiwifruit on Friday, 03 April 2020, 05:20 PM
Same place just bent the backet to suit.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Big Phil on Friday, 03 April 2020, 05:29 PM
Thanks guys that's great and I really appreciate the pictures.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Nic on Friday, 03 April 2020, 05:58 PM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Friday, 03 April  2020, 05:20 PM
Same place just bent the bracket to suit.
Hand guards too mate  :onya:
Just on the Oxfords, I wish I could remember to turn em off, more times than not I just keep on forgetting.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Hooli on Saturday, 04 April 2020, 06:34 AM
I'm lazier, I just fitted the controller with one bolt & lent it to the right to clear the mirror.

But I have a relay controlled aux feed from the batt that runs the grips, USB power unit (gives two sockets under the seat, one always has a cable plugged in that goes under the tank & up to the headstock for twat nav) and heated clothing.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Big Phil on Tuesday, 07 April 2020, 04:42 AM
Fitted the grips today, very straight forward and easy job if I'm honest. Hardest part was removing the old grips but they came off in one piece with a bit of heat from a hair dryer. Mounted the controller using Hooli's elaborate technique of using one bolt 😂 I did support it by adding a rubber grommet to keep the vibe to a minimum and I have to say it looks fine. Turned on the grips for a few minutes on full power and they were actually too hot to hold comfortably without gloves! Would just like to get out and ride now but alas that's not going to happen anytime soon with the lock down. Stay safe guys and thanks again for your help👏
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 07 April 2020, 05:02 AM
It's a tried & tested mounting technique, I've used it for years.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: BlueDragon on Tuesday, 07 April 2020, 08:18 AM
Slight segway here on topic.

I was looking at heated grips, but as I have more than one bike, I was more leaning towards heated gloves instead.  That said - the decent heated gloves in Aussie are around $280 or so.  Which would take care of buying 2 sets of heated grips.  But was wondering if there are any drawbacks in regards to the grips?  I heard varying reports of some grips only lasting a few years and then needing replacement.

Just wondering if anyone has tried heated gloves over the heated grips?    I know drawback is that once the batter is flat - your hands will get cold.  But I would not be spending more than 4 to 6 hours on a bike on one riding stint in winter - so that doesn't worry me.

Am also looking at fitting hand guards as well. 
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Snapey on Tuesday, 07 April 2020, 11:01 AM
Definitely put some Strom hand guards on especially in the cold climate where you live. Ugly as buggery but worth their weight in gold. I've had the same cheap Ebay heated grips on for over 10 years with no problems but it's a very different story with my neighbour's numerous Oxford grips.

So I have hand guards and heated grips but still get numb finger tips so if I'm going for a long winter ride I wear heated inner gloves as well. Not battery gloves but ones I plug in to a socket on the bike so no flat battery. You just need to remember to unplug yourself before getting off.

My favourite bit of winter clothing is the heated vest but that can get hot so I have a rheostat fitted to control temperature. That's it attached to the shock mount ... showing where the vest plugs in, an on/off toggle switch and the rheostat. The plug for the gloves is on the other side.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 07 April 2020, 03:09 PM
Have both Oxford grips and Storm hand guards. The old paws still get cold though.
Just cold not frozen !!
Had the grips on for 5 years.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 07 April 2020, 04:11 PM
Have a look at Bagster or Oxford muffs. Anyone use anything like those ?
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 08 April 2020, 06:04 AM
You need to heat the levers to stop your fingers from getting cold.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 08 April 2020, 06:16 AM
or just drive a car . .
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 08 April 2020, 06:45 AM
Quote from: BlueDragon on Tuesday, 07 April  2020, 08:18 AM
Slight segway here on topic.

I was looking at heated grips, but as I have more than one bike, I was more leaning towards heated gloves instead.  That said - the decent heated gloves in Aussie are around $280 or so.  Which would take care of buying 2 sets of heated grips.  But was wondering if there are any drawbacks in regards to the grips?  I heard varying reports of some grips only lasting a few years and then needing replacement.

Just wondering if anyone has tried heated gloves over the heated grips?    I know drawback is that once the batter is flat - your hands will get cold.  But I would not be spending more than 4 to 6 hours on a bike on one riding stint in winter - so that doesn't worry me.

Am also looking at fitting hand guards as well.

Most people say gloves are better as they heat the back of your hands too.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Hooli on Wednesday, 08 April 2020, 06:46 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 08 April  2020, 06:04 AM
You need to heat the levers to stop your fingers from getting cold.

You can get foam rubber sleeves that slide over them & cure that. I've got them on mine & got so used to them they stay on all year.

They've split & tried to fall off after a good years use, so I've wrapped them in duck tape. Not spending another 99p if I don't have too!
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 08 April 2020, 06:52 AM
Duck tape must be a lot cheaper than Duct tape.  :stir:
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 08 April 2020, 06:49 PM
My mate uses Zarkie touring gloves. 5 yrs of use, still perfect. Just need a plug from bike to plug into. $230. Hes toured Tassie with them in Winter, all good
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Hooli on Thursday, 09 April 2020, 04:13 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 08 April  2020, 06:52 AM
Duck tape must be a lot cheaper than Duct tape.  :stir:

It's a brand that the place I normally go sells.

https://www.duckbrand.com/products/duck-tape/the-original
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Andre on Thursday, 09 April 2020, 04:55 AM
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 09 April  2020, 04:13 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 08 April  2020, 06:52 AM
Duck tape must be a lot cheaper than Duct tape.  :stir:

It's a brand that the place I normally go sells.

https://www.duckbrand.com/products/duck-tape/the-original

Cool :clapping:
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 09 April 2020, 05:38 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 09 April  2020, 04:13 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 08 April  2020, 06:52 AM
Duck tape must be a lot cheaper than Duct tape.  :stir:

It's a brand that the place I normally go sells.

https://www.duckbrand.com/products/duck-tape/the-original

I am aware of the two brands but to save 99p you would have to look closely at the pricing.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 09 April 2020, 06:25 PM
squeaky
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Hooli on Friday, 10 April 2020, 06:27 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 09 April  2020, 05:38 PM
Quote from: Hooli on Thursday, 09 April  2020, 04:13 AM
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Wednesday, 08 April  2020, 06:52 AM
Duck tape must be a lot cheaper than Duct tape.  :stir:

It's a brand that the place I normally go sells.

https://www.duckbrand.com/products/duck-tape/the-original

I am aware of the two brands but to save 99p you would have to look closely at the pricing.

No the 99p was the cost of the rubber sleeves over the levers that'd started to split so got duck taped together.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 12 April 2020, 07:07 PM
Is this them, how long do they last.
https://www.wish.com/product/5de89073fac5002b6faed22d?hide_login_modal=true&from_ad=goog_shopping&_display_country_code=GB&_force_currency_code=GBP&pid=googleadwords_int&c=%7BcampaignId%7D&ad_cid=5de89073fac5002b6faed22d&ad_cc=GB&ad_curr=GBP&ad_price=1.00&campaign_id=6493229882&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6sSoxsPi6AIVyOvtCh0Hbw8yEAQYASABEgKZzPD_BwE&share=web
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: steve porter on Saturday, 16 May 2020, 07:05 AM
Picked up a set of oxfords yesterday and will fit them over the weekend, I've fitted a couple of sets for friends, but never actually ridden with heated grips myself.As I've now clocked up over 1600 covid kms and feel this self delivery thing may go on for a while yet,and it's getting colder I thought they may a be worthwhile addition, looking forward to trying them out .
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Kiwifruit on Saturday, 16 May 2020, 05:01 PM
Once you have them Steve l think you will surprise yourself how often you use them.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: steve porter on Saturday, 16 May 2020, 06:04 PM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Saturday, 16 May  2020, 05:01 PM
Once you have them Steve l think you will surprise yourself how often you use them.
All fitted up, won't ride until Monday, but they work a treat.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: steve porter on Monday, 18 May 2020, 02:30 PM
How bloody good are these things,              6 degrees when I left home up in the hills this morning and I had to turn them down to 50% after 2 ks
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: GSXKING on Monday, 18 May 2020, 04:02 PM
There's no going back now Steve  :doh:

I have them on my RT but not GSX  :salute:
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: steve porter on Monday, 18 May 2020, 05:08 PM
Quote from: GSXKING on Monday, 18 May  2020, 04:02 PM
There's no going back now Steve  :doh:

I have them on my RT but not GSX  :salute:
yep, hooked, must admit though I haven`t ridden in freezing cold weather  since the mid 90`s when I used to ride to the city daily, rain, hail or shine on my K100, and I could be wrong, but I dont think heated grips were a thing back then.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: grog on Monday, 18 May 2020, 06:55 PM
Id like to find ice grips for our Summer.  :)
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: Hooli on Tuesday, 19 May 2020, 05:07 AM
Quote from: steve porter on Monday, 18 May  2020, 02:30 PM
How bloody good are these things,              6 degrees when I left home up in the hills this morning and I had to turn them down to 50% after 2 ks

Wait till you get caught in the rain, they are the best way to dry your gloves as you ride too.
Title: Re: Heated Grips
Post by: steve porter on Tuesday, 19 May 2020, 05:55 AM
I try to avoid the rain, but yes will get caught at some stage