Racked up near 4,000km since I've been using the 14.
I'm averaging about 7.0L/100km high 30's UK mpg.
About 140-150km I do a day . 90% open road.
Try to keep the speed at about 120-140kmh. :clapping:
Tried easing of the throttle to about 100kmh but only getting marginally better , 6.8L/100km.
Does this mileage sound about right ?
From previous thread I see people getting high 40's mpg :frustrated:
Yep, at those speeds it would be.
My fuel consumption is something between 5.5 to 8.5 L/100 km, normally 6.0 to 6.5 L/100 km.
14 has high air resistance and injection from stone age, so it's sensitive for higher speeds.
@Suzuki boi Its a little high if your sitting at a constant speed but if you slowing down/speeding up and changing gear often then it's not to bad .
:wheelie:
:cheers:
I don't care what mpg I get - ride it like its stolen or like a Volvo driver - just enjoy :)
@seth Id be at that speed fairly constant the whole way.
Bar when I meet someone slower and need to slow down and overtake.
The bike will sit at 4k rpm in 6th gear most of the way.
It's extremely rare that I'd go over 5k revs at any time.
Usually shift at about 4k rpm so no harsh acceleration.
Just wanted to see what you guys were getting and see if it's my right hands fault or something with the bike :stir:
Quote from: Notty on Friday, 18 October 2019, 06:18 PM
I don't care what mpg I get - ride it like its stolen or like a Volvo driver - just enjoy :)
If it was my weekend blast bike I'd think the same :clapping:
But as its my commuter I got to look and notice these kind of things :cry2:
5.5 to 6.5 always. Normal day to day, just me below 6.
I typically get around 55mpg or just over 12 miles per litre.
If I'm with nob head mates then the worst I've ever seen was 46mpg
Sophie isn't a high maintenance wench !
A drive of 300km with various speeds is usually a refill of 18.5 to 21.0 liters .
Yours isn't to far off.
I mention 300km because it's 75km commuting for me. I fuel up at 300km.
It does sound a bit high. I get between 45 and 50mpg, which is between 6.2 and 5.6 l/100km.
Another way of looking at it, 180 to 200 miles on a tank (290 to 320km).
Same kind of riding, I don't spend a lot of time over 4000rpm, just the odd burst for fun. I think it's a surprisingly economical bike considering the size and weight (also considering it has the aerodynamics of the Cutty Sark).
Completely standard K5 by the way, with the Yoshi can.
My k7 is almost identical mileage @ mr fishfinger. Stock bike with a remus end can, not bad for a big bike and 17&1/2 stone sat on it. :imrgreen:
When I use 8 L/100 km, I have really fun. Busas and ZZR:s are not so fast they believe :grin:
Reading most of the comments here ,it seems my Suzuki is quite a thirsty big fecker.
I wouldn't mind but it should be running pretty efficiently ,new air filter,injectors professionally cleaned, throttle position sensor set,new plugs(iridium tho). :facepalm: will take the plugs out at some stage and see if they can give me an indicator to what's going on
And jaysus 55mpg was gotten???
I got that on my old deauville!!
I get about 18/litre but the 1200s about 16/litre.
Always between the 14 and 16 km's per ltr. Once reached 17 on a long trip ( for dutch riders ) of 350km with average speed of 120kmh. Going to fit pc one of these days but don not expect any big differences in fuel consumption.
Quote from: Blubber on Friday, 18 October 2019, 08:04 PM
A drive of 300km with various speeds is usually a refill of 18.5 to 21.0 liters .
Yes. I have a full system, but it has a PC111 and a pretty good map.
Before I "enlarged" the neck a stock full tank would take me North to Childers / 307K's at legalish mixed speeds.
How old is yours Suzuki boi?
I ask as my K2 got new wheel bearings earlier this year. They'd felt fine right up to getting a rear tyre fitted, but it turned out the fronts where rusty as I did them too. I've regained the normal (for me 42-48mpg depending how I ride) rather than the 35-44mpg It'd been doing recently. Feels 'freer' & quicker to ride too.
Just because I could I took a very leisurely ride down to Minehead and Porlock yesterday, then I went through Taunton and back to Bridgwater where I filled up, I was mostly sticking to the speed limits and was on single and dual carriageways. I put 8.4 ltrs in and had covered 105.6 miles which equates to 57 miles to the gallon. Not as good as my Beemer which would have done it in about 7ltrs but I'm very happy with that.
that's way more thrifty than I get Mick, but I'm not known to be riding 'very leisurely' I get too bored, may as well be in me car.
Quote from: mjgt on Monday, 21 October 2019, 06:40 PM
I was mostly sticking to the speed limits
Nope, you've lost me with that...
I'm getting around 45mpg and that's thrashing it on the motorway all the time..Far more than I get from my 1200 Bandit with a Stage 1 tune.
So by comparison..The 1400 isn't thirsty at all.
Highway cruising at around 110km/h gets me just south of 6L/100km, I probably average 7.5L/100km on a day to day basis with a mix of commuting and shenanigans.. :boogie2:
Never had it that high before but I just wanted to see what it would do if I was not in a hurry, and it was a bit too cold and damp to be pushing things.
Quote from: mjgt on Tuesday, 22 October 2019, 07:21 PM
Never had it that high before but I just wanted to see what it would do if I was not in a hurry, and it was a bit too cold and damp to be pushing things.
Nice Mick, it is good to know what it'll stretch out to if the need arose.
So I tried a leisurely commute yesterday and today.
Sticking to 100kmh-120kmh
Only managed 6.6 l/100km.
So don't think it's my right hand.
I`ll get 180-200 miles to the tankful, mixed riding, two-up, on my K3....thank goodness for the huge tank!
Well I haven;t done the maths lately but lately I've been commuting only and getting around 260 kms to a tank.
(however much a tank holds, I usually top it off)
The last time I measured was some commuting but mostly a saturday leisurely ride.
280kms, 14.11 litres which if my maths is right is 5.02 l / 100kms.
IF that's right it'd be the best economy I've ever seen.
This questions does come up rather a lot so I might put together a spreadsheet if people are willing to contribute, just for the heck of it.
Fields might include
fuelling - stock or PC
exhaust: stock, full delkevic, full akro, akro slip on, etc
riding type (% commuting, % recreational )
rising style - aggressive, normal, leisurely.
kms litres
Then I could get the spreadsheet to spit out l/100kms and mpg etc. Plus people could sort buy the set up they have to compare similar bikes with their own.
Thoughts?
@VladTepes ..Good idea :onya:
I've had one of those since I had the bike, yep, I like them, shows up heavy usage / short range straight away, which could be an indicator somethings not quite right. You also can compare usage over a long period & see if things are staying the same, getting better or getting worse.
5.1 to 6.2 liter/100 km depending on ... (NO Autobahn).
Time of year is needed too.
Those of us who never bother to block off part of the oil cooler always get worse MPG in winter. I lose anything upto 5mpg in cold weather, less on long trips where it manages to get nearly warm.
Let's kick this into gear again.
Just out of interest wondering what fuel usage stats people are getting.
No need to go into any great detail - just interested in what the range is.
I've been using around 7.5 L / 100kms of late - almost entirely commuting.
around 5ltrs per 100k 100 k round trip , city, freeway and finishing every day with a bit of a blast up Mt. Dandenong around 300k when the guage starts flashing
The Yoshi cam & Akro must be stealing your fuel Mike, that's a bit heavy. I'll look tonight & see what I get. Pretty sure it's around 5.5L/100km
Mine is 5.5 L/100. Overall ave.
Well I don't think (from what I have heard) that the Yoshi stage 1 cams make much difference to anything down low in the rev range, and that's where the bike spends the vast majority of its time.
Yeah I reckon it's pretty dramatic too it's like 50% higher than I once got (and what you fellas seem to be getting). :confused1:
If it's the Yoshi cams (or rather the PC3 map that goes with them) that's fine I just want to be sure there's not something else at play that needs 'sorting'
I just converted my average mpg to litre per 100km...Approx 5 litres per 100km. That was nearly all very fast motorway riding too.
Just checked, overall average for the blue is 5.68L/100Km. So, sounds like 5 - 6L/100K is pretty much normal. 7+L/100 for commuting does sound high, spend a lot of time idling at lights maybe?
Mine has been thirsty for the last year or so & I've not worked out why yet as it seems to run fine.
I get about 140-150miles before reserve, it used to be 160-180 ridden the same. It was down to 120 but tweaking the STPS helped.
That'll be just you ragging it more than previously :lol: :onya:
Would the types of tyres and oil you use make a difference.
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Friday, 18 September 2020, 06:17 PM
Would the types of tyres and oil you use make a difference.
Not forgetting the aftermarket air cleaner with the narrow inlet & the more prevalent head winds due to global warming . . .
Could be the chain with seized links creating drag too.
Good point Col about the chain, better again take the O rings out of it and you have a lot less friction.
What would be a recommended lube for a chain that's had the "O" or "X" rings removed? Penetrating oil works well I've found.
Hooli, just worked out my first light flashes around 210 to 220 in your miles. Yours is chewing it up a bit.
Standard K7's are very economical.
14 is my fun bike, so I ride it less, and last year city only. So, almost 8.5 L/100 :embarrassed:
But mine have Yosh cams and full Akra, and I'm quite sure not the best AFR. Also, engine would benefit from decarbonising - high torque on low revs have price...
there is my fuel fueling:
https://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/suzuki/gsx_1400/2003/northern-pit/743193/fuelchart
Quote from: BbigMmac on Saturday, 19 October 2019, 05:10 PM
Always between the 14 and 16 km's per ltr. Once reached 17 on a long trip ( for dutch riders ) of 350km with average speed of 120kmh. Going to fit pc one of these days but don not expect any big differences in fuel consumption.
Fitted a PCIII and had it run on the dyno, now does 17 - 19 km's a litre. Good improvement .
On varied runs i`m looking at around 200mls to the tankful, give or take. I`m happy with that. I don`t use my bikes for commuting nowadays therefore i`m not bothered about mpg.
What i like about the `14 is its tank capacity/range. What i hate is having to stop to re-fuel!
Come to think of it, i wasn`t bothered that my Kawa Triples were breathing air after 60miles either...... :)
Vlad, think Northern answered your question. Same set up as yours. I guess you cant add 30 bhp and expect same fuel use.
Best I got out of mine was during a gentle ride out, I got 57 MPG, that's bloody good for a fat slug of a bike, cant match my 1200 beemer though.
Just checked my fuel receipt and actual was 6.02 Ltrs per 100 which is pretty shit considering a friends 2.5 ton BM X5 diesel averaged 6.8 over its 200k lifespan which a lot of that was towing alpacas in a big trailer
The X5 might be worth a closer look then -
Quote from: KiwiCol on Sunday, 20 September 2020, 05:12 AM
The X5 might be worth a closer look then -
That was a first gen 3.0 , when he upgraded to the second gen 3.5 twin turbo it was around the 8 L per 100, still not bad though
Just a thought here. Throwing a monkey wrench at the topic.. but perhaps food for thought.
Everyone "might" be getting better fuel economy than currently being calculated.
Especially if you have a speedo healer installed.
Using my GPS - before I installed a speedo healer, the odometer was about 2 to 3 klms out at a real 100klms. So a real GPS measure 100 klms was only showing as 97/98 klms on the bike odometer. Granted, not a big difference. Speedo was reading about 108 for a real 100 kph.
When I installed the speedo healer, this fixed the speedo, so that 100kph on the bike was a real 100kph on the GPS, but it totally threw out the odometer.
I was wondering why my fuel economy went down after I did some calculations a while back. Then connected the GPS back up for a ride and noted that the odometer was reading between 93/94 klms when in fact I had done a GPS measured 100klms. Accuracy of the GPS at the time was +/- 6 metres.
Anyway, just thought I would point that out. Make of it what you will, as no doubt every bike is different and tyre wear will also play a small part as well,.
Not to mention tyre size if you have put a different size tyre on the rear of the bike, but also the circumference of tyres - even the same size, are not the same and varies from each manufacturer.
I tend to calculate my fuel economy on GPS measured distances.
You are spot on Blue Dragon. I keep a fuel log & have a speedo healer fitted, yes the odo reads low. Because I keep these records in a spreadsheet, it's easy to adjust to the correct mileage by using the factor of the speedohealer adjustment.
Or you can cover a known distance, see what the odo reads for it & make the formula based on the 'error' value obtained from your ride. Obviously the greater distance the more accurate your factor will be.
Something ive never checked Bluey.Speed i have but not distance. Will do this week.
Mine has suddenly turned thirsty again, I've not refilled to get a figure yet but I was down to three bars after a steady motorway run of 62miles at 80-90mph. Something sodding wrong again, but the oddest thing is it feels like it's running fine & I'd expect it to feel wrong when drinking like that.
Too many pies Hooli?
Hooli, at that speed, around 5k revs, motor would just love rich mixture. You must have a sensor not reading correctly. IMO.
Quote from: grog on Sunday, 20 September 2020, 08:17 PM
Hooli, at that speed, around 5k revs, motor would just love rich mixture. You must have a sensor not reading correctly. IMO.
Close, I found it not long after typing that.
Every damn plug lead was loose in the plug caps, I've trimmed them & screwed them back on so they feel solid. Should I be gluing them with anything as well though?
I went to Cornwall this weekend, so I filled the tank to the brim, set the trip meter to zero and found that at 70mph on motorway I got 55miles till the 1st bar dropped, then 45 miles for each bar afterwards and that was with the bike loaded with a kitbag on the back so not too bad I think.
@BlueDragon Sure, BUT while the figure may not be precisely correct its still useful as a comparative figure - and I'm using 2l/100kms more than most others.
What's it using when you go on a decent distance ride Mike?
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 23 September 2020, 12:10 PM
@BlueDragon Sure, BUT while the figure may not be precisely correct its still useful as a comparative figure - and I'm using 2l/100kms more than most others.
Gotta be the cams surely
Steve, you being a Ducati man. Mid 80s i modded my Darmah motor. Balanced . ported, Teflon pistons, carbs 32 out to 42 Malossi
kit in Dellortos. 42mm inlet valves. Steel/alloy plate clutch, lots of other bits. So much more power, lasted 80 th k and still going strong when sold. Fuel average went from 40mpg to nearly 50. Always amazed me. Bigger carbs/valves were supposed to also decrease low down grunt, make it peaky. Total opposite. Just a nice bike to ride, could leave a 900ss in its tracks. I guess $5 g was a lot to spend in 1985 but leaves great memories. My equal favourite bike with 14.
Yea, nothing quite like a breathed on bevel, 851 is the same and worked better everywhere, got mine up to 115 rwhp from the 85 it left the factory with. Suzuki possibly start closer to the mark than Ducati do
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 23 September 2020, 03:19 PM
What's it using when you go on a decent distance ride Mike?
Haven't had a chance to find out yet
@VladTepes You must get to work and home again a hell of a lot quicker.
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 24 September 2020, 04:21 PM
@VladTepes
You must get to work and home again a hell of a lot quicker.
at least one speeding ticket concurs.
Today i checked odometer to GPS. Did exactly 100ks on GPS, bike read 99.9. Closer than i thought it would be. Speed is a bit different. 100ks on GPs is about 106 on speedo.
Sounds about right, as standard the mileage tends to be bang on & the speedo 7-8% high.