Hi looking for info about this conversion photos etc etc thanks in advance
Yoda
Now - someone did that on the old org.....who was it. I'm pretty sure Capri302 (from the old org) fitted an R1 seat - the principle would be the same I guess.
Happy to contact him on your behalf Yoda if you get no joy from fellow orgsters here. I kno wit meant modding the rear frame rails, but that's about all I know.
I'm pretty sure gnome (I think) did it too, seat pad looked odd as it was built up to sort of match the tank, just looked wrong
This is NOT what your'e on about, but talking of seats, I have a spare seat & being a short-arse, I thought i'd have a go at modding it to suit, lump of h/d foam, elec carving knife, surform etc.
Paper templates, & had a go a making a cover, turned out 'sorta-reasonable' I suppose, & at least it fitted, a couple of naff joints, & wrinkles, but i'd give it 50 out of 100, next one will be better. :grin:
How it was done here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s4zvdrrou6j7jqg/AAD0o1ABqI6RGnlooRMaYUzna?dl=0
What I like about your "have a go" approach Lawrie is how damn professional it looks when you've done it for every "have a go" you turn your hand to.
That looks very nice indeed.
Ha ha, thanks for that, but i've spent a lifetime 'having a go' at just about any & everything, & about 50% of that has finished up in the bin. :grin:
P.S. I still have a full size ELECTRIC staircase I designed made & fitted over 30 years ago & its used often, all drawn on graph-paper (pre-computer).
Quote from: lawrie on Friday, 17 February 2017, 07:31 PM
Ha ha, thanks for that, but i've spent a lifetime 'having a go' at just about any & everything, & about 50% of that has finished up in the bin. :grin:
P.S. I still have a full size ELECTRIC staircase I designed made & fitted over 30 years ago & its used often, all drawn on graph-paper (pre-computer).
Why am I not surprised.... :clapping:
Yoda..I just Google searched GSX1400 with GSX-R seat unit.
Is this what you were after? As Barmy said..It's brought up Capri 302's bike...
Hi Froudy yes that's what I am after
Quote from: Yoda on Friday, 17 February 2017, 10:29 PM
Hi Froudy yes that's what I am after
I will send an email to Capri302 asking if he will enlighten me Allan and respond (assuming he is good enough to reply to my mail of course!)
lawrie I love the look of your bike !
You are too kind sir, but this forum is full of lovely looking bikes.
Still on the lookout on any info on the single seat conversion. Have the chance of a gsxr1000k8 seat but am a bit hesitant. Any help would be appreciated
Yoda
You need help?
Just press " buy it now ".. when drinking at 03:00 at night :rofl2:
( That's how i bought a big bore kit :lol: )
blubber
i love it lol drink and buy ha ha ha ha ha :rofl2: :rofl3: :clapping: :onya:
Oh No no more Drinking and eBaying for me - woke up one morning and was the owner of a Hillman Avenger - and it was about 300 miles away in Wales :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :whatever: :whatever:
dare i say ...but i bet there are a few on here that can say that about a lady.. that they have woken up next to the morning................. after a few to many beers :laugh: :onya:
Lol nice one. Note to self ignore blubbers comments from now on.
Allan, a few on the old org had done that mod, I haven't heard back from Tim, so can't help there. I know you have to slightly mod the back end of the frame, personally I'd be inclined to get it and then see how it will fit - at least you know it can be fitted if others have done it.
Easy for me to say as not my cash, but I think that might be th eonly way. Then of course we will need a write up...... :onya:
Hi Dave yes your probably right still negotiating the £250 price tag for the complete rear seat and frame section
If I go ahead I will post up in here
Cheers Allan
Quote from: Yoda on Wednesday, 01 March 2017, 04:50 AM
Hi Dave yes your probably right still negotiating the £250 price tag for the complete rear seat and frame section
If I go ahead I will post up in here
Cheers Allan
That is a damned good price if it's complete with seat plastics, sub frame, under tray, all lights and the seats themselves!!! :onya:
Hi Yoda.
Humble apologies for the very late reply,but I totally forgot about Barmie's e-mail!
What would you like to know? I'll help the best I can.
Hi Tim I would like to know what seat and tail end you used I am looking at a GSXR k7 1000 Do you also have photos showing the bracket location and how you managed to mate the single seat to the 14 frame. Thanks in advance
Yoda
I'm afraid it was far from "scientific",more like "close your eyes and hope for the best"! I actually started off with one of Gnome's old efforts (which I still have!),which I think was a fibreglass unit.All the bits (I got parts separately as I couldn't get a complete unit) were off a K7/8 GSXR1000,including the alloy sub-frame. I then fitted all the plastics to the sub-frame and offered it up to the bike. Gnome had sent me a load of pictures from his efforts,and I worked out "approximately" where to cut the 14's rear frame section. I then offered the seat/sub-frame unit up to where it was in the best position for height,and looks. I had to "relieve" some of the plastic to fit round shock mounts etc.,which I did with a Dremmel! The sub-frame sits in between the 14's frame,and I cut and shaped some spacers from round tube (think I used some of the rear frame I'd chopped off!) to fit in-between both,and then bolted it all up. The seat,again,"suck it and see",was an amalgamation of 14 (front bit by the tank) and GSXR,glued together with some super duper resin we use at work,to bond body panels to cars!! The foam padding I also "bodged" together,and then sent it off to be covered (and get a gel pad fitted at the same time!) properly. I eventually got round to fitting a seat lock,which worked just fine after a little "fine tuning",which is just as well as it needed to be fixed in place for the MOT.
The undertray was also off a GSXR. Considering it was all kind of,not exactly bodged as I had to sit on it so it needed to be secure,done by eye till it looked ok,it turned out pretty well,and definitely worth the effort/hassle. The reason I chose the GSXR unit,other than looks,was because it was from the same manufacturer,so I figured the rear light/indicators would be straightforward. I suppose you could get a "proper" sub-frame made,but I doubt it would be cheap.
As I said,it was all done as I went along really,no instructions to follow. The only "leap of faith" was cutting off the rear frame section,that was the point of no return!
I don't think I have any pictures,but I will trawl through my library and check.
By the finished look your effort was well worth it. I have a chance at a complete rear for £200. It would be good to see some photos if you have them. Trying to get it all straight in my head before I take the plunge
Cheers Yoda
As I said,the biggest "choice" is to take the plunge and cut the rear frame off. If memory serves,it was cut off just before the strengthening web by the rear shock mount. Once the unit gets offered up,and you can see it in front of you,it all makes a little more sense.
Tim
Sent you a PM Yoda.
Hi Tim thanks for the photos. I am going for it I have bought a GSXR 750 k6 complete rear.
Will let you guys know how I get on
Yoda
Yoda PLEASE document / photograph the process as much as possible as you go. Would be great to have a "how to" guide on the forum here for future reference.
Yoda would I be able to get those photos as I have been thinking about doing it and would be good to see what I'm in for.
Here is a couple will post more later
Work in progress
Frame chopped and drilled
Sub frame fitted
Plastics trimmed and fitted
Electrics sorted
Undertray cut and shaped to fit
Temporary seat in place
Not so straight forward but happy with it so far.
Nice looking 14,but,i do like the various gsxr tailpieces that are transplanted on,but yours looks a little German Streetfighter Tailpiece pointing upwards!
But anyway that's what Bikes and Modding is all aboot,each to there own
That's different :salute:
Still had the jack up kit on it. It's a bit lower now.
Cool
thats looking great yoda :onya:
are you upgrading the rear shocks ?
Hi Seth no plans for the shocks just now. Still a bit of fetteling to do trimming etc. with the plastics. Do you have any contacts for a sculptured seat ?
i might have leave it with me a few days.
I've just stickied this topic, as its getting some useful detail in it (thanks to all for providing)
Looks good how did you fasten the cowl to frame.
Quote from: Yoda on Monday, 20 March 2017, 03:48 AM
Hi Seth no plans for the shocks just now. Still a bit of fetteling to do trimming etc. with the plastics. Do you have any contacts for a sculptured seat ?
If you have the pan, Tony Archer does bike seats at good prices, had my tiger seat done by him.
Hi Reece I used threaded rods
Just read through this thread.
It looks so good I'm fighting my inner self to not go and get the grinder out and start chopping bits off my sub frame :facepalm:
Looks spot on Yoda :onya:
Getting there. Couldn't give up on the gold wheels. Happy with it now
Work in progress
Looks really good Yoda :onya:
Yes! Looks good :drool:
Thanks guys. Just to work out how the seat will be secured now have a couple of ideas.
Hi all seat reprofiled and secured and the paint now done. Mot then I will take the rear tail tidy off for a smaller plate.
Well done Yoda.
That's a great job.
Good work Mate.
The K6 tail is one of the classic great shapes along with the RGV250, Z900, 916.
Mine was easier to do as I put it on a Busa.
Bolt on subframe means its just adapters and a few bits, but nothing cut.
You put a lot more work in than I did.
Well done... :onya:
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Cheers for that Tony was a bit of work but really happy with the way it turned out. There is something about the GSXR single seat it emphasises the big muscle bike look.
Same with your busa.
Great work you've done Yoda. Love the look of it. :cheers:
Finishing touches done today :)
I really want to do this but just worried about cutting the frame wrong.
Does anyone have any measurements or pictures of where to cut and what is the best rear end to fit.
Hi Reece
I have some photos from Tim it shows where to cut your frame. Pm me your email address and I will forward you how I did mine. Not as scarey as you would think.
Yoda
Pm sent buddy
This took me back down memory lane
Hi guys, i might have a chance of a seat unit but ideally it would be goid if someone thats done this could send me or post a list of the gsxr parts actually required to do the conversion please, a guide would also be amazing but i realise that might be pushing it, ive not had the pleasure of riding my gsx due to injuries sustained in a car crash 3 years ago but i think im going to be able next year, ive got my gsxr1000 k7 to sell then im going to begin modifying the gsx, once i get a shed at my new house first lol, im really chomping at the bit to get started and have collected some nice parts already, anyway any help will be really appreciated
Thanks
Those bloody Campbells upset me, please dont show again. ive tried lots to justify the cost.
@grog the problem with the campbells is they sound even better than they look :stir:
Quote from: seth on Thursday, 25 October 2018, 10:39 PM
@grog the problem with the campbells is they sound even better than they look :stir:
Too damn noisy
@seth also IMO they stifle the performance - at least on my previous K2 they did, soon as I removed them and put Beowulf's on the bike breathed a lot easier and ran a lot better.
Personally I think that Campbells are overrated - just my opinion of course, but I was glad to sell mine on.
I've only heard
@Yoda leaving from our ride around the hills it sounded fantastic .
Years ago I brought a bike just on how it sounded (gxs1100efe with a done a exhaust system)I ended up hating the bike due to handling woes(16"front wheel) but it always loved how it sounded.
:whistling:
@gsxbarmy I can see what your saying and on the face of it they do look like they reduce the airflow potentially strangling and limiting the performance. I ran quills before I purchased the campbells and had both setups dynoed there was a marked increase in BHP with the campbells currently sitting at just under 120BHP at the rear wheel not the crank. Performance and the smoothness doesn't seem to be compromised quite the reverse? I have to say that I didn't purchase them for more BHP my driving ability couldn't accomindate it I just liked the look of them and the build quality is excellent.
I do acknowledge that they are not to everyone's taste but for me they are the muts nuts. IMO :onya:
Quote from: Yoda on Monday, 29 October 2018, 02:20 AM
@gsxbarmy I can see what your saying and on the face of it they do look like they reduce the airflow potentially strangling and limiting the performance. I ran quills before I purchased the campbells and had both setups dynoed there was a marked increase in BHP with the campbells currently sitting at just under 120BHP at the rear wheel not the crank. Performance and the smoothness doesn't seem to be compromised quite the reverse? I have to say that I didn't purchase them for more BHP my driving ability couldn't accomindate it I just liked the look of them and the build quality is excellent.
I do acknowledge that they are not to everyone's taste but for me they are the muts nuts. IMO :onya:
Then again I only had the twin pipes each side on my Allan, whereas of course yours has the 3 cans each side so may give the better flow. As you say though each to their own
How come this has went from me asking for a parts list for fitting a gsxr seat unit to campbell exhausts?
@Gkjnr Probably due to
@Yoda is the only person on here that's fitted a gsxr seat unit.
He might be able offer more info on what is required and involved to fit the seat unit .
:cheers:
Quote from: grog on Thursday, 25 October 2018, 07:09 PM
Those bloody Campbells upset me, please dont show again. ive tried lots to justify the cost.
I would blame it all on Grog :stir: :grin:
Quote from: Gkjnr on Thursday, 01 November 2018, 07:48 AM
How come this has went from me asking for a parts list for fitting a gsxr seat unit to campbell exhausts?
Yes, its very strange. I have never known a thread to go off track on here before :whistling:
Quote from: Gkjnr on Thursday, 01 November 2018, 07:48 AM
How come this has went from me asking for a parts list for fitting a gsxr seat unit to campbell exhausts?
Hi Gkjnr happy to help if needed
Quote from: Gkjnr on Thursday, 01 November 2018, 07:48 AM
How come this has went from me asking for a parts list for fitting a gsxr seat unit to campbell exhausts?
Some on here are old and forget where they started. :whistling:
OK, just blame me. Sometimes i get lost on threads. Sorry fellas. BTW, i do like that seat. :rofl2:
Wot seat? Who are you guys?
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 01 November 2018, 07:20 PM
Wot seat?
Wot = Wide Open Throttle
When you combine wot with seat you get this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omuO2rb31Bo
That GSXR seat conversion looks f#*☆in brilliant....so is the rest of the bike .great work :hat:
Quote from: Reece on Thursday, 09 March 2017, 07:42 AM
Yoda would I be able to get those photos as I have been thinking about doing it and would be good to see what I'm in for.
Me too please mate
Quote from: Yoda on Monday, 20 March 2017, 11:35 PM
Hi Reece I used threaded rods
Hi Yoda, do you have a side-on photo of this?
Looking to do the conversion myself over the winter so any help appreciated :cheers:
Hi just checked and I have already posted the photos I have
Quote from: Yoda on Monday, 23 November 2020, 06:14 AM
Hi just checked and I have already posted the photos I have
No worries, was hoping for a side shot of the subframe bolted in just to be sure.
So is it just that aluminium box piece shown in the photo that I need? (as opposed to the whole subframe I keep seeing advertised online).
Quote from: Yoda on Monday, 23 November 2020, 06:14 AM
Hi just checked and I have already posted the photos I have
Morning mate, thought I'd reply here as couldn't attach photo to private message :rolleyes:
So, I've got all the bits together and I think I've covered all the odds and sods, (rubber cushions, screws, spacers, bolts etc), from Robinsons Foundry, no doubt I'll find something I've forgotten along the way lol.
Also bought a load of various size plastic push rivets for joining the plastic parts, 6mm, 7mm and 8mm. Got different sizes as for example where some should be 6mm I think the hole is a little too loose so I can drill it out for a 7mm rivet with a tighter clearance so once it's fixed it stays that way.
Regarding the frame I'm going to get four spacers machined to take up the slack between the frame and subframe see picture, exact dimensions to be confirmed later, I'll also knock some aluminium bar into the frame tube to prevent it from crushing when it's all bolted up tight. So hopefully it won't be going anywhere with my fat ass on it lol.
I will try to remember to take lots of photos as I go should anyone else need advice.
So, got all parts for the GSXR seat conversion back from paint and upholstery last week, many thanks to Wicked Coatings for the hydro-dipping and Coastal Customs Upholstery for making the seat look good, both highly recommended businesses down here in Dorset.
First ride out yesterday and nothing fell off so all is good. This bike never fails to make me smile, was a standard K5 when purchased in October 2012 but as I don't ride when it's cold and wet, (arthritis and hate bike cleaning), it's in my garage over Winter and I just can't leave the bloody thing alone lol. Started just changing a few nut, bolts and screws for either titanium or polished stainless steel but sort of got a bit out of hand in the coming years.
I know it's probably not to a lot of peoples' taste but I love it.
Hi Ian I haven't been on the site lately. That is one very nice bit of work well done. :clapping:
Ian, not at all what id do to a 14, just not my style. Its superb work, your effort not wasted on me. Beautiful paint and just pure quality bike. Top job. 👍👍👍