With no improvement in my right shoulder I'm looking at fitting a left hand throttle to the 14. I'll also swap the brake & clutch lines over so the clutch lever is on the right hand side. Question is ... are the master cylinders the same size as in piston & volume?
The left hand throttle is second nature after 30 years riding Indians but the levers might take some getting used to.
Talk to the NADB, they will probably have more information on this subject that might help.
beat me to it
nabd are great for this kind of mods
they have contacts on companies that provide this kit and also might be able to fund or part fund the conversion.
good luck
They are a great organisation, a couple of mates have had to use them, just hope I never need their expertise.
they are indeed :hat:
Thanks a lot guys but I'm in Oz, although I'd say there's something similar here too. Funny thing is that with the type of engineering I've done over the last 55 years such an organisation would come to someone like me to do this sort of modification.
I'll test the flow rate of both master cylinders & if they're the same then it should only be a matter of swapping hydraulic lines. The twist grip might be OK if the cables are reversed but if not it's no drama to make something up.
The shoulder issue causing you problems with the throttle won't be equally affected using a RH clutch?
Because it controls the throttle my arm is in one position constantly making the shoulder ache. Any more than a minute in that position & I'm in pain. With the left hand throttle I could rest the right arm on my lap & be ready for clutch use only.
I'm not happy riding with a gut full of Endone so it's either the twist grip mod or limit myself to 10 minute rides.
So a cruise control is no use then? I suppose that doesn't solve the problem of low speed riding with constant changes of throttle position though eh.
One good thing about a left hand throttle - not likely anyone will steal the bike for joy rides !
Sorted with one of my 3am brain waves. I've got the design in my head but a flexible shaft through the handlebars attached to a bar end weight. The LH bar end weight would act as a secondary throttle.
Quote from: Snapey on Saturday, 18 February 2017, 02:53 PM
Sorted with one of my 3am brain waves. I've got the design in my head but a flexible shaft through the handlebars attached to a bar end weight. The LH bar end weight would act as a secondary throttle.
Well that idea didn't work on the Pro Tapers so a straight bar was the solution. I needed to make another set of risers but I now have left & right hand throttles. The straight bars aren't as comfortable as the others but I can now get relief when the shoulder gets sore. Hopefully this is only a temporary solution.
That's a bit flash. I admire your work !
Does two throttles make it go twice as fast ? :)
Break-Away Cruise Control, have a look at those Snapey.
I've got one, easy to fit & a good piece of kit. I find it useful anyway.
knowing nothing about your shoulder prob Snapey. i cant comment. have you tried acupuncture, i had a frogged hip , replacement they told me. acu. fixed it. just wondering.
@Snapey I use one of these as I do a lot of motorway riding.I wouldn't be without one now.
Would it help your shoulder at all?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Universal-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Throttle-Clip-Cramp-Assist-Wrist-Cruise-Control-/332061376161?hash=item4d50667ea1:g:-osAAOSwEzxYT5OS
snapey i have one I dont use and would offer to post it to you but its actually less for you to buy and with free post than it would cost for me to send it - about $6 cheaper in fact ! Bloody Australia Post.....
standard equipment on mine Froudy, has been for over 5 yrs. best thing i ever fitted. fingers off, press with palm, keep same pace. some dont like in twisty bits, doesnt bother me. have a pare, two for 5 bucks, first one not yet broken.
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 15 March 2017, 02:30 PM
Does two throttles make it go twice as fast ? :)
That would be nice but the bike being blue/white is fast enough Michael.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 15 March 2017, 04:45 PM
Break-Away Cruise Control, have a look at those Snapey.
I've got one, easy to fit & a good piece of kit. I find it useful anyway.
They do look good Col but I'm balking at the cost. Doing shit like this gives an old retired toolmaker something to do anyway.
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 15 March 2017, 07:18 PM
knowing nothing about your shoulder prob Snapey. i cant comment. have you tried acupuncture, i had a frogged hip , replacement they told me. acu. fixed it. just wondering.
Might be worth investigating grog although acupuncture was no help with my back.
Quote from: froudy on Wednesday, 15 March 2017, 07:43 PM
@Snapey
I use one of these as I do a lot of motorway riding.I wouldn't be without one now.
Would it help your shoulder at all?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-Universal-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Throttle-Clip-Cramp-Assist-Wrist-Cruise-Control-/332061376161?hash=item4d50667ea1:g:-osAAOSwEzxYT5OS
No good at all Froudy. My problem is the normal riding position. Just holding the handlebar is painful so at every opportunity I rest my right arm on my lap ... hence the need for the LH throttle. Unfortunately the straight bars are uncomfortable & need a kink so that's the next project.
Pete - sounds like you are having exactly the same issues which led to me getting rid of my 14 - I couldn't get a decent riding position (in my case it was actually causing damage to my back slowly but surely).
Might be the case of having to change bikes - an adventure type machine with its more upright position might be the way to go.
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 16 March 2017, 02:31 AM
Might be the case of having to change bikes - an adventure type machine with its more upright position might be the way to go.
Wash your mouth out sir. ;)
The bike is not the problem Dave but the position the arm sits when holding the bars. As an example ... I now use the computer mouse with my left hand because resting the right arm on the desk is painful.
Sounds like you need some ape hangers mate! Remember those?
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 16 March 2017, 02:31 AM
Pete - sounds like you are having exactly the same issues which led to me getting rid of my 14 - I couldn't get a decent riding position (in my case it was actually causing damage to my back slowly but surely).
Might be the case of having to change bikes - an adventure type machine with its more upright position might be the way to go.
The riding position is killing my left hip for some reason..The seat is too low and I'm cramped up on it :furious:
That's a few of us that get the left hip (mainly) seizing / cramping. You, Me, think Grog too sometimes & Daveh just off the top of me head.
Wonder if we're all the same size build? Prob not as I are a large unit, (mostly muscle though - yeah right) I'm 1.95cm long & about 135 - 140Kg in full gear.
I find it worse when my legs are restricted from full movement, ie wearing full gear.
Wonder if we can fit highway pegs anywhere, that stretch out front always makes it feel better.
Quote from: Snapey on Thursday, 16 March 2017, 05:09 AM
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 16 March 2017, 02:31 AM
Might be the case of having to change bikes - an adventure type machine with its more upright position might be the way to go.
Wash your mouth out sir. ;)
The bike is not the problem Dave but the position the arm sits when holding the bars. As an example ... I now use the computer mouse with my left hand because resting the right arm on the desk is painful.
That was part of my problem as well Pete, I played with a whole load of different bars, heights and the suchlike, even going to the extreme of having custom risers made which I attached Renthal 758 Superlows to - this gave me a slightly higher position than the standard bars, but the pull back and just general comfort of the way those bars were made was better than standard, such that it alleviated 2 problems, one being the angle where the grips were (standard bars just put too mcuh pressure on my wrists), the other giving me a slightly more upright riding position, which again helped with the back, but also again took pressure off the wrists and forearms.
Stop trying to recruit for the trumpet brigade barmy ! :lol:
Quote from: VladTepes on Thursday, 16 March 2017, 12:04 PM
Stop trying to recruit for the trumpet brigade barmy ! :lol:
Yeah, get a Guzzi Sport.
Quote from: VladTepes on Thursday, 16 March 2017, 12:04 PM
Stop trying to recruit for the trumpet brigade barmy ! :lol:
Not trying to - just saying what I did to mine to help alleviate similar issues I had. Everything I did improved the riding position which is the problem Pete seems to have at present.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 16 March 2017, 09:03 AM
That's a few of us that get the left hip (mainly) seizing / cramping. You, Me, think Grog too sometimes & Daveh just off the top of me head.
Wonder if we're all the same size build? Prob not as I are a large unit, (mostly muscle though - yeah right) I'm 1.95cm long & about 135 - 140Kg in full gear.
I find it worse when my legs are restricted from full movement, ie wearing full gear.
Wonder if we can fit highway pegs anywhere, that stretch out front always makes it feel better.
Could be an age thing ? ;)
On a more serious note; i fitted crash bungs that are convenient for a shirt while to stretching the legs
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 16 March 2017, 09:03 AM
Wonder if we can fit highway pegs anywhere, that stretch out front always makes it feel better.
I've had this setup for years. Not much good as a foot rest but I clamped a bit on it to nest my leg when I had a bad knee.
That's stainless tube BTW, not solid.
That's the idea Snapey, I can get access to solid ss bar. Just have it welded to a mounting plate. My belly pan mounts to that same bolt, so I'd have to work the mounting plate to take that into consideration.
All good, being SS it'll shine up nice too.
Cheers mate.