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Title: Cleaning inside
Post by: mlivkovich on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 03:45 PM
Last week I crashed my bike and signal generator cover broke. Bike stopped by the road in gravel. I cleaned all that sand and little rocks from there. I will change oil and filter but I am afraid that small amount of sand came into crankcase. Is it possible? Should I take off oil pan and clean everything from below? Don't wanna take a risk of sand being in it. :confused1:
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Andre on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 04:31 PM
There is a small amount of oil behind the signal generator cover. I have no idea where that is exactly coming from. I would tilt the bike on its side with the cover off and investigate where the oil comes from (assuming you haven't dumped the engine oil yet). It should be a very small passage. If there was no sand in that spot than all should be good. If there was sand there, I would start the engine with the cover off so oil will squirt/flow out and flush any sand that might be there out.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 05:06 PM
It wouldn't start without the signal generator, maybe another way of pressurising the sump / oil?


Just went back to the original pic, looks like it's still there, but working ?
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 05:07 PM
I agree with Andre. And having done that I think i'd purchase and run some flushing oil through "just to be safe" before removing the old oil filter.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: mlivkovich on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 05:37 PM
I just found out that there are two big holes where oil can come in and out. Marked grey areas in picture is part of crankshaft, it turns with it. These holes are just not visible until signal generator is removed. I decided, oil pan goes down, and I will clean everything from below.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Andre on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 06:09 PM
Good decision.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Mick_J on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 06:47 PM
With the sump off I would try to force some flushing oil down through the holes behind the signal generator with a syringe or something a bit more powerful to really flush things out, just in case.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: mlivkovich on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 10:02 PM
Took off oil pan and was looking for sand. No sand inside, just rocks :imrgreen:

Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Andre on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 10:49 PM
"How would you like your oil?" "On the rocks please."

Oh my gosh. Would not have thought that.  :doh:

Would want me take the whole engine apart.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 11 September 2019, 03:12 AM
Finding that is good & bad, great you found it & bad it's in there.  You'd hope it's all been contained in the sump area & not been pumped to ot her parts of the engine.
I feel sorry for you looking at that, a real quandry.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Wednesday, 11 September 2019, 03:30 AM
I suddenly got the urge to fit some engine bars.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 11 September 2019, 03:49 AM
Quote from: Mister Fishfinger on Wednesday, 11 September  2019, 03:30 AM
I suddenly got the urge to fit some engine bars.

I know folk who think they are great.

I also know folk who quickly removed them again when they hit the ground on corners.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Wednesday, 11 September 2019, 07:02 AM
Quote from: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 11 September  2019, 03:49 AM
Quote from: Mister Fishfinger on Wednesday, 11 September  2019, 03:30 AM
I suddenly got the urge to fit some engine bars.

I know folk who think they are great.

I also know folk who quickly removed them again when they hit the ground on corners.

I removed mine (Renntec) because they were huge. They even got in the way of my legs when I was paddling the bike around. Wouldn't mind some smaller ones though, the Givis are cute. I am not such a cornering monster that I need to worry about grinding things when I go round bends. Sad but true.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: mlivkovich on Wednesday, 11 September 2019, 09:51 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 11 September  2019, 03:12 AM
Finding that is good & bad, great you found it & bad it's in there.  You'd hope it's all been contained in the sump area & not been pumped to ot her parts of the engine.
I feel sorry for you looking at that, a real quandry.

I think nothing is pumped in because tipover sensor did its job and cut off engine in the moment bike fell down. Bike slided for few seconds on road before stopped in gravel by the road.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Andre on Wednesday, 11 September 2019, 10:08 AM
That is reassuring. I am still amazed by the rocks in the pan.
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: mlivkovich on Thursday, 19 September 2019, 12:54 AM
Back on the road again!  :boogie:
12 long days without my 14  :doh:
All parts came and installed, it runs like a dream again!  :grin:
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 19 September 2019, 02:58 AM
Well done Mlivkovich.   :boogie:  Glad it's running sweet again.  :onya:
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: Mick_J on Thursday, 19 September 2019, 06:55 PM
That's great news  :clapping:
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: grog on Thursday, 19 September 2019, 07:15 PM
Best news ever Mate. Such a quick redo, amazing. AllKudos to you.  :hat:
Title: Re: Cleaning inside
Post by: GSXKING on Thursday, 19 September 2019, 09:00 PM
Well done bud. I'm staggered by the rocks egress in to the motor  :whatever: :whatever: :whatever: