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General => Bike Chat => Topic started by: Snapey on Saturday, 17 August 2019, 08:15 PM

Title: He's kidding
Post by: Snapey on Saturday, 17 August 2019, 08:15 PM
The description is interesting. https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2008-suzuki-gsx1400/SSE-AD-6249318/?Cr=5
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Notty on Saturday, 17 August 2019, 08:28 PM
Thats £9000 ? the world is going mad !! :bugga:
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Irish in Oz on Saturday, 17 August 2019, 08:31 PM
Those GIVI top boxes are very collectable.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: grog on Saturday, 17 August 2019, 08:43 PM
Might follow that one up. Been after a decent motorcycle. Do they all need new motors at 38 th ks? He probably only needed new pistons, 2 strokes are like that.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: GSXKING on Saturday, 17 August 2019, 09:29 PM
How much were they new ? I traded a HD Roadking for mine straight swap in October 2001. :whistling:
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Snapey on Saturday, 17 August 2019, 10:03 PM
Quote from: GSXKING on Saturday, 17 August  2019, 09:29 PM
How much were they new ? I traded a HD Roadking for mine straight swap in October 2001. :whistling:

I paid Action Suzuki $14225 for my B/W in December 2001. Recommended retail at the time was $14390 + on road costs.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: KiwiCol on Saturday, 17 August 2019, 10:23 PM
Well . . . .  looks like we've all just had our 'investments' increase in value twofold.  Good on us!    But fair go, bit steep isn't it?  16k?  what do they smoke over your way?
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 12:32 AM
Quote from: Snapey on Saturday, 17 August  2019, 10:03 PM
Quote from: GSXKING on Saturday, 17 August  2019, 09:29 PM
How much were they new ? I traded a HD Roadking for mine straight swap in October 2001. :whistling:

I paid Action Suzuki $14225 for my B/W in December 2001. Recommended retail at the time was $14390 + on road costs.

And they where still about the same price in 2009.
I paid $10000 for my 07 in 09 with 4250k's.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Tally on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 01:29 AM
I paid £4850 for mine in 2008 with 600 miles (1000k) on the clock. I think he is being very opportunistic with his pricing to say the least.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Irish in Oz on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 04:08 AM
You can ask what you like, getting it is another thing.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Snapey on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 06:15 AM
I enquired about this one yesterday but the dealer wanted nothing to do with my offer. https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2008-suzuki-gsx1400z/OAG-AD-17521168/?Cr=0

BTW, my offer was to trade in the red/black I'd just finished & a $4000 change over. That boiled down to me reducing my price to $4000 and him coming down to $8000. Needless to say that his price was firm at $8995 & he'd give me $3500 for mine.

I do like the Special Edition colour scheme so I might spend about $750 on stickers & paint and re-do the red/black in those colours. I think the only thing Suzuki got wrong with the S E was the single muffler but mine would have two.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 07:48 AM
Quote from: Snapey on Sunday, 18 August  2019, 06:15 AM
I enquired about this one yesterday but the dealer wanted nothing to do with my offer. https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2008-suzuki-gsx1400z/OAG-AD-17521168/?Cr=0

BTW, my offer was to trade in the red/black I'd just finished & a $4000 change over. That boiled down to me reducing my price to $4000 and him coming down to $8000. Needless to say that his price was firm at $8995 & he'd give me $3500 for mine.

I do like the Special Edition colour scheme so I might spend about $750 on stickers & paint and re-do the red/black in those colours. I think the only thing Suzuki got wrong with the S E was the single muffler but mine would have two.

I wouldn't mind a clean tidy late model bike, and that SE paint version really looks nice. As you say, a good respray on a similar year black bike or slightly earlier bike would give the same result and a much wider choice of bikes to pick from.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Sweaty on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 08:29 AM
$16k  :jack:
Sounds to me that the original owner was towing a Caravan  :smile2: & stuffed the engine & who knows what other issues.
When I read the add, it raises a few concerns, rather than think, what a Original untouched low km find.
The bike has done 45,000kms after all.
:jack:
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Snapey on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 09:06 AM
It's not the 1st of April is it?
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Speedy1959 on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 09:10 AM
Well I never knew Sophie was a "Mohican"..
He is selling "The last" of them apparently

S.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Kiwifruit on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 09:16 AM
Does make you wonder how they get their pricing.
As for having another engine fitted it does make you wonder what the real history is.
Seems to me most on here are not touching even the valve clearances before 100k.
Towbar,.....why would you ??
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 09:19 AM
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Sunday, 18 August  2019, 09:10 AM
Well I never knew Sophie was a "Mohican"..
He is selling "The last" of them apparently

S.

The last / latest / final / end of line GSX1400's is a regular topic.

I used to think it was the white and blue AU spec bikes,
but having looked at a few the black AU "08" bikes seem to have later build dates.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Speedy1959 on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 09:22 AM
The lack of Valve shim adjustment is a VERY big plus point in my eyes..
My previous (ahem) CB1300 had to be checked every 18,000 miles and would usually require 2 or 3 shims to be changed..
Sophies done about 41,000 miles now and runs absolutely perfectly..
Definitely my favourite bike out of all the ones I have owned.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Notty on Sunday, 18 August 2019, 10:54 PM
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Sunday, 18 August  2019, 09:22 AM
The lack of Valve shim adjustment is a VERY big plus point in my eyes..
My previous (ahem) CB1300 had to be checked every 18,000 miles and would usually require 2 or 3 shims to be changed..
Sophies done about 41,000 miles now and runs absolutely perfectly..
Definitely my favourite bike out of all the ones I have owned.
Glad I was able help reunite you and Sophie - perhaps we could start a bikes reunited thread?   :)
@Speedy1959
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Snapey on Monday, 19 August 2019, 07:12 AM
I couldn't help myself so I messaged old mate asking if the sale price was a misprint but also suggesting the bike in fact had done 45500kms and it's value at that. Obviously the 38000kms travelled prior to the new engine doesn't count in his eyes evident in his answer. I'm not game to ask why a 38000km engine had to be replaced.

Peter,I have not asked for your opinion nor what you think the value of the bike is... I am just not interested in visitor's opinions. 16K is surely not a misprint, it is my asking price and that's absolutely respectable. The bike has not done 45500 km and your assumption is wrong. The wheels have spun for 38000 km but the New Engine has only done 7,500 km as certified by the Suzuki Dealership themselves. I have displayed a whole list of all new items recently replaced which compensates for the former km's as well as previous service history. Obviously, this bike is not for you and I cannot see the point in wasting your time and mine when I have specifically stated in the Ad that "my asking price is FIRM. Just the fact that I have written it in capital letters excludes any wasted unwanted low-ball offers.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: KiwiCol on Monday, 19 August 2019, 08:17 AM
Well!,   he might be hanging on to his $16k bike for quite a while then.  Bit of a grumpy bugger by the way he's written that.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Andre on Monday, 19 August 2019, 08:24 AM
Thank you for wasting this loony's time :onya:

QuoteI have specifically stated in the Ad that "my asking price is FIRM. Just the fact that I have written it in capital letters excludes any wasted unwanted low-ball offers.

He also put NEW in capitals before the engine even though it is obviously not new at 7500 km. Makes it fair to ignore his FIRM.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Irish in Oz on Tuesday, 20 August 2019, 04:23 AM
Quote from: Snapey on Monday, 19 August  2019, 07:12 AM
I couldn't help myself so I messaged old mate asking if the sale price was a misprint but also suggesting the bike in fact had done 45500kms and it's value at that. Obviously the 38000kms travelled prior to the new engine doesn't count in his eyes evident in his answer. I'm not game to ask why a 38000km engine had to be replaced.

Peter,I have not asked for your opinion nor what you think the value of the bike is... I am just not interested in visitor's opinions. 16K is surely not a misprint, it is my asking price and that's absolutely respectable. The bike has not done 45500 km and your assumption is wrong. The wheels have spun for 38000 km but the New Engine has only done 7,500 km as certified by the Suzuki Dealership themselves. I have displayed a whole list of all new items recently replaced which compensates for the former km's as well as previous service history. Obviously, this bike is not for you and I cannot see the point in wasting your time and mine when I have specifically stated in the Ad that "my asking price is FIRM. Just the fact that I have written it in capital letters excludes any wasted unwanted low-ball offers.

And you wasted his time and yours making him type out the explanation, he's obviously grumpy like you. :)
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Snapey on Wednesday, 21 August 2019, 08:45 PM
It didn't take long for old mate to reduce his FIRM price of $16,000. It's yours now for the bargain basement price of $14000 FIRM of course. He's also changed the description saying the engine was changed at 33,000km when he said 38,000km in the original ad.

Look at the new ad but especially the last few paragraphs explaining the engine swap. :confused1: :jack:
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Sweaty on Wednesday, 21 August 2019, 09:14 PM
You are obviously not the only one who has questioned this moron on his ad, so he has now tried to change it and justify his now New firm price of $14,000 (which is not firm from what he says anyway)  :cheesy: :jack:

If anyone is genuinely interested in the bike, come see it IN PERSON and only then you can make your honest, respectable and fair offer, as long as it is very close to my asking price.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Wednesday, 21 August 2019, 09:24 PM
I think this bloke is missing the point somewhat. The engine is the best thing about these bikes. Change the oil regularly and it will do more miles than the Starship Enterprise. So putting a new one in after 30,000km doesn't really make much difference to a buyer, because the engine will far outlast the rest of the bike - just like the original one would have, if he hadn't knackered it.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Andre on Wednesday, 21 August 2019, 10:15 PM
QuoteThe Suzuki Dealership has installed a New Engine but cannot change the electronic display as this would be unethical.

Not only unethical but also illegal.

Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Snapey on Tuesday, 27 August 2019, 09:16 PM
From $16,000 to $14,000 it's now at $10,000 ... FIRM of course.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Sweaty on Tuesday, 27 August 2019, 10:08 PM
Haha, just as we expected. Bloody  :jack:
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Snapey on Wednesday, 04 September 2019, 11:26 PM
Listed on Gumtree now at $8900 & still the same sales pitch.
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 05 September 2019, 02:40 PM
price reduced to that on bikesales to.

I love that it's sort after, and has outstanding breaking power.

The reads like a cross between a sales brochure and Nigerian email scam.

Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: BlueDragon on Thursday, 05 September 2019, 02:51 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Thursday, 05 September  2019, 02:40 PM
price reduced to that on bikesales to.

I love that it's sort after, and has outstanding breaking power.

The reads like a cross between a sales brochure and Nigerian email scam.

:rofl2: :rofl2: :happy1: :happy1: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: He's kidding
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Thursday, 05 September 2019, 03:23 PM
If the "new" engine, that isn't new, has done 7500K's why would you put a new camchain tensioner in it ?

No mention of how to kill a motor in 33,000K's ?

Not ethical to reset mileage? Mine went back to zero with new clocks, mileage should never be trusted. I've had no issues with main roads or insurance having 00001k on the clock, does everyone really trust odometers?

What guarantee do you have that lump has done 7,500k, or 75,000k or 175,0000 before it was swapped over?  $3000 to get a new motor? Fark!

I like the comment about braking / breaking power though.
If you think an 11 year old bike with 6 plops and the original rubber hoses is "outstanding" then you have a lot to learn.

I'd buy this bike at the right price, despite the seller being away with the fairies, but I'm not sure he'd appreciate my valuation.