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Title: Noise meters
Post by: Mick_J on Friday, 02 August 2019, 09:23 PM
Big brother stiffs the frogs

https://www.morebikes.co.uk/60306/theyre-up-and-running-in-france-first-noise-cameras-from-the-cops-trailing-on-real-roads-and-just-one-catches-hundreds-on-its-first-sunday-live-uh-oh/?utm_campaign=%28BA%29+MoreBikes+Newsletter+-+2AUG19&utm_source=emailCampaign&utm_content=&utm_medium=email
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Notty on Friday, 02 August 2019, 09:30 PM
On trial here as well  :bugga:
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Kiwifruit on Friday, 02 August 2019, 10:36 PM
A government can only tax you so much before you get rid of it.
But they keep coming up with new ways to rape your wallet and then tell you its your own fault.   :facepalm:
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Mick_J on Friday, 02 August 2019, 10:50 PM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Friday, 02 August  2019, 10:36 PM
A government can only tax you so much before you get rid of it.
But they keep coming up with new ways to rape your wallet and then tell you its your own fault.   :facepalm:

No Kiwi, they tell us it's for our own good.  They think it will make is feel good about getting shit on.  :lol:
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 12:43 AM
Hmmm. On one hand I like the sound of a fruity pipe as much as the next guy but on the other hand you have to admit there are people really taking the piss with bike exhausts now. Especially (around here) middle aged blokes on Harleys with straight through pipes.

I work in an office near a busy road and it gets to the point where we have to stop conversations or phone calls until they've gone past. I imagine it's not great for people trying to get a baby to sleep, or get to sleep after a night shift, or generally live their lives in reasonable peace.

So unfortunately, as usual, a small number of selfish arseholes have created a climate where people are happy to support measures like this.
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Kiwifruit on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 01:40 AM
@mjgt You are correct
Its making the 'Roads Safer for You' and in this instance 'Making the Enviroment  Enjoyable for You'   :smitten: :smitten:
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Andre on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 02:40 AM
I have no problem with cops checking the noise level. But these automated cameras rub me the wrong way. Just another way to make money.
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 03:41 AM
Quote from: Andre on Saturday, 03 August  2019, 02:40 AM
I have no problem with cops checking the noise level. But these automated cameras rub me the wrong way. Just another way to make money.

Yes but that's the problem. There are hardly any cops, at least in this country. They are struggling to investigate even serious crimes so they're not likely to be out there with microphones chasing loud bikes.
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: KiwiCol on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 05:31 AM
Quote from: mjgt on Friday, 02 August  2019, 10:50 PM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Friday, 02 August  2019, 10:36 PM
A government can only tax you so much before you get rid of it.
But they keep coming up with new ways to rape your wallet and then tell you its your own fault.   :facepalm:

No Kiwi, they tell us it's for our own good.  They think it will make is feel good about getting shit on.  :lol:
Maybe we can tell them they're wrong in their assumption & they'll drop it?
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Andre on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 05:37 AM
Quote from: Mister Fishfinger on Saturday, 03 August  2019, 03:41 AM
Quote from: Andre on Saturday, 03 August  2019, 02:40 AM
I have no problem with cops checking the noise level. But these automated cameras rub me the wrong way. Just another way to make money.

Yes but that's the problem. There are hardly any cops, at least in this country. They are struggling to investigate even serious crimes so they're not likely to be out there with microphones chasing loud bikes.

Then they should get more cops! Here they place themselves strategically to get the most out of it. Catch quite a few. But then they hand out the fines. One guy I talked to this week paid 25€  :rofl2:
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: KiwiCol on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 05:42 AM
So, after you've paid your 25 euro, are you allowed to ride it then? or are they going to be on the next corner & bang you another 25, or hit you again tomorrow?
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Andre on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 05:51 AM
You get a fix-it order and you have to present it to a police station. Afterward you can change it back if you are so inclined and face another ticket. If you fail to present it they will report you to the registration office which might decide to revoke your registration.

Driving home/workshop to get it fixed and you get stopped again you show them the ticket and should be clear. If you ride around just for fun you may ask for another ticket.
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Notty on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 06:14 AM
Quote from: Mister Fishfinger on Saturday, 03 August  2019, 03:41 AM
Quote from: Andre on Saturday, 03 August  2019, 02:40 AM
I have no problem with cops checking the noise level. But these automated cameras rub me the wrong way. Just another way to make money.

Yes but that's the problem. There are hardly any cops, at least in this country. They are struggling to investigate even serious crimes so they're not likely to be out there with microphones chasing loud bikes.
only 8% of crimes are detected !!! its appalling -so lets screw the easy targets :furious: :furious: :furious:
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: froudy on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 03:49 PM
I'm hoping it's more aimed at the boy racers in their chavved up Clios' with huge straight through exhausts.

I test drove a Vauhall Astra VXR before finally buying the one I have now. It had been modded and chipped to 340bhp. One of the mods was a straight through 3" stainless exhaust system from the turbo back. It was deafening and very annoying to drive..I politely declined it.

Turners have even deleveloped a "Pop and Bang" map for ECU's..Boy racers around here love them. At night when they're out playing it sounds like Beirut on a good day :furious:
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: grog on Saturday, 03 August 2019, 05:22 PM
This morning 6am, no muffler Hardly using full revs past my house. I love the sound of most bikes but that noise is just noise. I cant understand how they enjoy it and get away with it. The pop and bang thing on cars also the latest rage. Huge backfires.
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Mister Fishfinger on Sunday, 04 August 2019, 02:49 AM
Quote from: grog on Saturday, 03 August  2019, 05:22 PM
This morning 6am, no muffler Hardly using full revs past my house. I love the sound of most bikes but that noise is just noise. I cant understand how they enjoy it and get away with it. The pop and bang thing on cars also the latest rage. Huge backfires.

If only there was some sort of system that could detect noisy vehicles and fine the owners... ;)
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: Andre on Sunday, 04 August 2019, 03:01 AM
A system that detects noisy vehicles is relatively simple. But it is not simple to assign the measured noise to a particular vehicle unless there are no others around. Also other noise sources need to be excluded. Also vehicles emit different approved noise levels (even different depending of year of same model) depending on RPM. When the cops here measure noise they bring the RPM up to what it says in the papers/VIN plate.
Title: Re: Noise meters
Post by: froudy on Sunday, 04 August 2019, 08:06 AM
Quote from: grog on Saturday, 03 August  2019, 05:22 PM
The pop and bang thing on cars also the latest rage. Huge backfires.

They just sound like they're broken :rofl2: :rofl2: