Hi All,
Thought I would partially repeat in this section my initial observations re Pirelli Angels Old and New...
After fitting I did a careful (ish) 110 miles along routes I know well to scrub them in.
The place I bought the tyres from (https://www.shorrocks.co.uk/) has a massive stock of tyres without having to order..
I have to say I was very impressed with the speed of the tyre change 51 minutes from start to finish (including balancing).
My past tyres of choice were always Michelin Pilot Road 4. At the time of replacement I noticed a very big difference in how the new tyre behaved compared to the old worn out tyre..
My worn out (down to the steel) Angel ST's were replaced with the new Angel GT II version)..
As I rode away I was struck by how little difference in feel there was..
In other words the Angels seem to keep their characteristics throughout their life.. There wasn't such a "God its like a new bike" feel that you normally get with new tyres due to older tyres going dull as they wear..
For me this consistency of feel is a definite plus point..
As you know its a bit of a gamble on a bike when you change Tyre allegiance !
S.
I agree about Angels feeling good old/ new. My last front did wear one side more than other, new one felt better naturally.
Front right extra wear Grog?
Of course Col. Road camber does that.
and the fact that right hand corners are twice as long as left hand corners (taken the same way - lanes etc). Straight up fact. I was sceptical at first, then I drew an accurate & to scale drawing of a T intersection, marked out the route traveled through each corner then added it up, Twice as far.
We actually use the right side of the front twice as much as the left. Simply put the right hand side of the tyre has more miles than the left - hence the faster wear. People who drive / ride on the right will have the same wear but it'll be on the left.
Still not sure, draw it up n see for yourself.
Youre pure genius Col. All accepted. :hat:
IMHO I use 180/55's on my GSX. I found I couldn't use all the edge on a 190/50. May come down to riding style etc. :onya: :onya: :onya:
I've run a 180/55 for the last few rears too. I get about the same distance from the edge but it makes the bike a lot quicker to turn in & has cured the understeer it'd suffered for a few years.
They probably won't still make them by the time I need new tyres :bugga:
Quote from: Notty on Friday, 19 July 2019, 04:04 AM
They probably won't still make them by the time I need new tyres :bugga:
Feel free to buy me some if you feel you're missing out in any way.
Has anyone tried the new Angel GT2's yet?
I've been reading a few reports online - mostly all rave reviews. But have also read a few where riders have experienced front end wobble with the new tyre - even after having the tyre/wheel re-balance a few times. The common theme being they seem to be from the USA and all complaints about high speed highway straight line riding on their concrete highways.
Hi Blue Dragon
Yes the Angels I bought are GTII's (see my earlier post on this thread).
I am into them by nearly 2,000 miles and love them.
They are wearing very slowly.
It's important that when you ask about tyres you ask people with the same bike as you.
I heard a guy slating the Angel 2 the other weekend but he wasn't riding a GSX1400.
These tyres suite our bikes characteristics. Put it this way I shall be buying a set again when the time comes.
Highly recommended.
S.
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 18 July 2019, 06:48 PM
and the fact that right hand corners are twice as long as left hand corners (taken the same way - lanes etc). Straight up fact. I was sceptical at first, then I drew an accurate & to scale drawing of a T intersection, marked out the route traveled through each corner then added it up, Twice as far.
We actually use the right side of the front twice as much as the left. Simply put the right hand side of the tyre has more miles than the left - hence the faster wear. People who drive / ride on the right will have the same wear but it'll be on the left.
Still not sure, draw it up n see for yourself.
Right hand tyre wear ?
The town I lived in had 14 roundabouts, several joined by dual carriageways the rest joined by fast A roads, no traffic lights. It was a regular playground for use late at night or in the early hours, many an hour spent doing laps. A couple of the big roundabouts had car parks or a bus depot in the middle. We spent waaaaay more time hanging off the right hand side. Tyres chewed up on one side was normal to us.
Lady Di's funeral or England making the cup final meant empty roads.
Two fatality's of mates put a stop to it.
RIP Wayne and Keo.
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 07:06 PM
I heard a guy slating the Angel 2 the other weekend but he wasn't riding a GSX1400.
These tyres suite our bikes characteristics.
Not just the bikes, but the riders and style too.
We have guys in the Busa club that do HUGE mileage around Australia. Set up for touring, luggage, sat nav etc, 650 mile back to back days are normal.
Other guys are doing much lower mileage but are dragging their pegs around the local mountains, or launching down a drag strip. They both ride similar model bikes.
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 07:06 PM
Hi Blue Dragon
Yes the Angels I bought are GTII's (see my earlier post on this thread).
I am into them by nearly 2,000 miles and love them.
They are wearing very slowly.
It's important that when you ask about tyres you ask people with the same bike as you.
I heard a guy slating the Angel 2 the other weekend but he wasn't riding a GSX1400.
These tyres suite our bikes characteristics. Put it this way I shall be buying a set again when the time comes.
Highly recommended.
S.
Agreed.
Which is why I asked the question here.
I fitted Angel gt2's back in April they have done just over 6000 miles and are wearing very slowly but still loads of life left in them yet.
I really like them in all conditions .
I've not tried any other of the new tyres available so couldn't say if they are better or not.
They really suit me and how I ride the bike.
:cheers:
Quote from: seth on Tuesday, 10 September 2019, 09:17 PM
I fitted Angel gt2's back in April they have done just over 6000 miles and are wearing very slowly but still loads of life left in them yet.
I really like them in all conditions .
I've not tried any other of the new tyres available so couldn't say if they are better or not.
They really suit me and how I ride the bike.
:cheers:
SIX THOUSAND MILES!!!!!!!!!! :whistling:
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SIX THOUSAND MILES!!!!!!!!!! :whistling:
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And he's only half way through them.
It's been a quiet year :stir:
But it's not over yet :boogie:
I have only been getting 9000 kms (5600 miles) out of the rear & 10,000 kms (6200 miles) out of the front.
Now on PR5, so it will be interesting to compare the mileage.
Both are great tyres & it will come down to mileage for me.
Quote from: Sweaty on Thursday, 12 September 2019, 06:50 AM
I have only been getting 9000 kms (5600 miles) out of the rear & 10,000 kms (6200 miles) out of the front.
Now on PR5, so it will be interesting to compare the mileage.
Both are great tyres & it will come down to mileage for me.
Sweaty what are you doing wrong. What tyre pressures are you running, what are your suspension settings, what weight are you, do you carry a pillion, do you ride fast, do you ride slow, do you put your knee out going around corners, do you ride on motorways. :stir:
After 8000 km on BMW R1250GS and 7000 km on Suzuki GSXR1000 all tires are down to between 2-3 mm. Riding done by a tire dealer and his wife. Includes a 6000 km tour.
Quote from: Irish in Oz on Thursday, 12 September 2019, 05:41 PM
Quote from: Sweaty on Thursday, 12 September 2019, 06:50 AM
I have only been getting 9000 kms (5600 miles) out of the rear & 10,000 kms (6200 miles) out of the front.
Now on PR5, so it will be interesting to compare the mileage.
Both are great tyres & it will come down to mileage for me.
Sweaty what are you doing wrong. What tyre pressures are you running, what are your suspension settings, what weight are you, do you carry a pillion, do you ride fast, do you ride slow, do you put your knee out going around corners, do you ride on motorways. :stir:
:grin: maybe I have the wrong spec Jeff :grin:
wish i was allowed to post on Angels. Have banned myself.
Quote from: grog on Thursday, 12 September 2019, 07:28 PM
wish i was allowed to post on Angels. Have banned myself.
Yeah, you stay out of it with your 20,000 km tyres Grog :onya: :clapping:
@grog and rightly so :lol: