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Title: SS Brake lines
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 06:24 PM
I'm looking on ebay at front brake lines, most appear to come from the UK, any better than another? Reasons? Looking at HEL lines, Wemoto & Venhill brands, not much between them in price.  A couple say they'll even add length at no extra cost.  I'd prefer the 3 line setup, but not totally against a 2 line setup.

Your recommendations chaps?
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Mick_J on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 06:29 PM
They are all good makes Col, I've never heard of any problems with any of them, pick the one that's the best price for what you want.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Notty on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 06:31 PM
I just fitted Hel and went with the standard set up after advice on here -  looks a lot neater in plain stainless  :)
I have Oberon risers and the standard length not a problem
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: grog on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 07:23 PM
Col, drop these blokes an e mail. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Suzuki-GSX1400-K1-K8-2001-2008-BTR-OEM-Replacements-Front-Brake-Hose-Kit/192226373083?hash=item2cc195addb:g:6YIAAOSwJwpZ0p1O
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 08:24 PM
Goodridge Carboline  black in either 2 or 3 line are on the list for my K3
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: GSXKING on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 09:09 PM
Got my HEL braided lines, two front lines (one to each caliper from master), rear brake and clutch, in Sky Blue with Titanium fittings from UK on Ebay for 1/2 the price of any Australian shop.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 10:30 PM
I will have a squizzy at them Hel lines me thinks...
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 07 June 2019, 03:55 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 06 June  2019, 06:24 PM.  A couple say they'll even add length at no extra cost.  I'd prefer the 3 line setup, but not totally against a 2 line setup.
Your recommendations chaps?

I have a bike with one line to a splitter on the bottom yoke, then a line down each fork.

I have a bike with one line from the master to the calliper, and a line looping over the guard to the other side.

I have a bike with two lines, both from the master to each calliper.

I have used several versions of each in the past on different bikes.

The master cylinder type and condition and the fluid and pads make a lot more difference than the line layout in my opinion.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: gsxbarmy on Friday, 07 June 2019, 04:50 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 06 June  2019, 06:24 PM
I'm looking on ebay at front brake lines, most appear to come from the UK, any better than another? Reasons? Looking at HEL lines, Wemoto & Venhill brands, not much between them in price.  A couple say they'll even add length at no extra cost.  I'd prefer the 3 line setup, but not totally against a 2 line setup.

Your recommendations chaps?

Personal choice Colin, it's been proven that there is no difference in braking performance between the 2 and 3 line setup. Personally I preferred the 3 if only because it is neater, making use of the splitter under the bottom yoke, else you need to determine so e way of holding the 2 lines in around there. Many use electrical ties, but IMO it does look very neat.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Friday, 07 June 2019, 05:12 PM
3 line set up for me, in black or Carboline.  Had a triumph Daytona with plain stainless lines as factory,  I added Pazzo adjustable levers (std length) as I felt that the short version were too easy to miss in  an emergency stop situation.

I will keep the 1402 with standard levers but def upgrade the 15y.o rubber lines soon.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: KiwiCol on Friday, 07 June 2019, 05:25 PM
I'm thinking of the 3 line as well. Reason is not so much the ageing rubber lines, it's the risers I put on. Whilst the bars are on, the lines are on the tight side. I either make an easy bracket to hold the splitter higher & accept the tight lines, or just put slightly longer lines on.  Best option would be longer lines & being SS also removes any possible short comings of the OEM lines - not that there's been any to date, but making old lines tighter, there could be some.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: GSXKING on Friday, 07 June 2019, 05:46 PM
You won't believe the difference in "The Feel" of the brakes with braided lines. The rubber hoses flex and more as they age. They are the cheap option factories use. I also have Pazzo levers they are more adjustable and again "Feel" better.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 07 June 2019, 06:47 PM
No reason to use zip-ties Balmy.
Normal brake line guides work fine.

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Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Friday, 07 June 2019, 07:09 PM
Quote from: GSXKING on Friday, 07 June  2019, 05:46 PM
You won't believe the difference in "The Feel" of the brakes with braided lines. The rubber hoses flex and more as they age. They are the cheap option factories use. I also have Pazzo levers they are more adjustable and again "Feel" better.
Sure, the oem has 4 adjustment points, Pazzo has 8 from memory. Now youve got me thinking why stop at braided lines....mmmmm
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: grog on Friday, 07 June 2019, 07:24 PM
Adjustments, everything has them. Good to have. Set my levers once, never bothered again. Front forks, is it 4 adjustments, drove me crazy trying to setting years back, got suspension bloke to set, never think of again.  Set and forget, works for me.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Friday, 07 June 2019, 07:25 PM
Try a bike with radial brakes, braided lines and the latest "smart" ABS....
... then go back to a 14's stock 6 plops and rubber lines!  :cry2:

Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Eric GSX1400K3 on Friday, 07 June 2019, 08:34 PM
Yeah, but you need a $ 1000 OBDii code reader, a physicist degree and a electrical engineering degree to work on the fancy pants radial braked,and thingymawhatsit bike, whereas on the good ol 1402, a couple of spanners plus Allen keys and were set.

:onya:
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: grog on Friday, 07 June 2019, 09:21 PM
Agree Tony. Not sure how advanced 2011 Diavel brakes are but wow do they stop. Really have to re adjust myself when back onto 14.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: KiwiCol on Saturday, 08 June 2019, 05:42 AM
Found a supplier in UK that will do a full set for £99.99  3 line front, rear & clutch with extra length on master line & clutch.  Happy with that for sure.  OHA Motorspost Ltd  is the name.
Title: Re: SS Brake lines
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Saturday, 08 June 2019, 07:08 AM
Quote from: Eric GSX1400K3 on Friday, 07 June  2019, 08:34 PM
Yeah, but you need a $ 1000 OBDii code reader, a physicist degree and a electrical engineering degree to work on the fancy pants radial braked,and thingymawhatsit bike, whereas on the good ol 1402, a couple of spanners plus Allen keys and were set.

:onya:

B-King's radial brakes make the 14's brakes feel like Fred Flintstones car.
My Kings brakes get less attention than my 14's.
Mates with ABS Kings never have a drama with them.

Yes, the new smart ABS isn't a hammer and screwdriver compatible, but it works and works very well. True, I can't fix it, but I can't fix my 14's ECU, powercommander or clocks like I could on old bikes, most folk don't even change tyre or do valve clearances.

I have old bikes to throw spanners at. As a rider the latest stuff is brilliant.

Cars? TV's? Computers? Phones?
Not buying something because I can't fix it doesn't make sense to me.