Completed a service on the old girl yesterday. Replaced oil (Syn-X 3000), oil filter (EMGO), cleaned and re-oiled K&N air filter, cleaned and rotated spark-plugs, adjusted throttle cables, AND pulled the fuel pump.
Attached some pictures of the filter and the sump it sits in. First time seen for me so not sure if just dirty/rusty or really dirty/rusty.
Anyway, scrubbed and cleaned with wet&dry and flushed everything with brake cleaner and air dried. Lubed O-rings and reinstalled.
Seems to chug along quite well. Very happy. Highly recommend it. :cheers:
Did you flush the internal filter ? , when I did mine a lot of rubbish came out of that too and am not sure that I don't need to do it again . Was definitely an improvement in the higher RPM range afterwards , always a bit of satisfaction in improving something when doing your own servicing .
I'm sure this has already been answered but I presume when you invert the tank it doesn't leak. Can you do so with the tank full-ish?
I need to have a look at my filters too,
Correct, it doesn't leak.
Sorry to disagree but the first time I did mine my tank was almost full and it did leak!!
I had to abandon taking out the fuel pump till I had run the tank down to about a quarter..
Why risk it with a full tank? Its harder to lift off and there IS a risk of leakage..
When I re tried to do it with a quarter tank I did it by standing my tank up on end against a wall (with a rug under and behind the tank against the wall).
Agreed the cap breather lets go, a bit of fuel in it and on an angle so it sits in the front of the tank sorted mine out,
I've had a leak when I did this with a near full tank .
I now do it with much less fuel in and have no problems .
@SheepDog I also added an inline filter on the fuel pump feed line to reduce the crud in the bowl of the fuel pump as that line is gravity fed so no high pressure to worry about.
http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=2212.0
:cheers:
Both lights flashing is the time. So much easier. No idea why try with a full tank.
Both lights flashing and "time to do the job" never seem to coiincide.
Dont stress Vlad, park it up empty, time for some Landrover burnouts, traffic light dashes , if you cant beat them at least you can runover them. :rofl2:
I've never tried with a completely full tank, so dunno about that, but I've had the tank off a few times with up to 3/4 full, no problem. Completely upside down on a towel, no worries. That's my experience of it anyway.
Supplementary question.
Unplugging the electrics is straightforward but how to undo the fuel line. Based on the pictures people do it at the fuel rail end? Is it just a pressure fit - pliers pull it off, and reverse to refit?
Morning Vled ,
The fuel line has a push on fitting with release by hand you just press the ring in the right location and it releases the dry break fitting I personally pulled mine off at the tank end you don't need pliers generally and yes it just pushes back on make sure you push it on straight as you can sometimes you can nick the o ring but these are pretty good i think , the Ducati dry break was a heap of garbage. I put a smear of rubber grease on the male end but that's just a belts and braces thing , good luck
Quote from: horse on Wednesday, 15 May 2019, 09:45 AM
Did you flush the internal filter ? , when I did mine a lot of rubbish came out of that too and am not sure that I don't need to do it again . Was definitely an improvement in the higher RPM range afterwards , always a bit of satisfaction in improving something when doing your own servicing .
I didn't pull the pump apart but as per instructions here I removed white clip from the top and pulled off the release valve and flushed everything everywhere if you know what I mean.
I did this with just one bar showing on my fuel gauge (very little fuel) with the tank resting on the tip up against a wall like the picture by Speedy1956. :onya:
Quote from: SheepDog on Thursday, 16 May 2019, 05:28 PM
Quote from: horse on Wednesday, 15 May 2019, 09:45 AM
Did you flush the internal filter ? , when I did mine a lot of rubbish came out of that too and am not sure that I don't need to do it again . Was definitely an improvement in the higher RPM range afterwards , always a bit of satisfaction in improving something when doing your own servicing .
I didn't pull the pump apart but as per instructions here I removed white clip from the top and pulled off the release valve and flushed everything everywhere if you know what I mean.
I did this with just one bar showing on my fuel gauge (very little fuel) with the tank resting on the tip up against a wall like the picture by Speedy1956. :onya:
yep did the same low level and angled the tank, I pulled the pump to bits as far as I could then flushed and drained the inbuilg filter with contact cleaner a lot of sediment came out. I m going to do that again as i believe there was more to come.
External filter a better option. IMO.
Agree Grog on my list
Been looking for some bloody wire to do that 'mod' to guard against future issues in that area. No idea what to ask for or where.
Couldn't find it in an automotive shop but didn't ask....
So where does the external filter actually go?
For the fuel regulator clip mod I used Stainless Steel wire 0.50 mm for jewelry. Got it through amazon.
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 22 May 2019, 11:03 AM
So where does the external filter actually go?
A simple aluminium bracket & the filter attached with a cable tie.
For wire I used stainless MIG wire which you'll get from any welder doing stainless.
Thanks for posting Snapey, saved me doing. I clean mine whenever, not getting real dirty but easy clean. Been a great mod. fuel pump sounds less stressed, motor revs perfectly. No idea why anyone stuffs about cleaning that stupid in tank high pressure.
Very tidy Snapey, very tidy !
I guess I ought to be a bit more specific - where does the filter go in relation to the fuel hoses - which line is cut to fit the filter? Is an extension required?
Quote from: grog on Wednesday, 22 May 2019, 07:31 PM
No idea why anyone stuffs about cleaning that stupid in tank high pressure.
Mostly, but not exclusively, because the filters that will fit are 30 micron. Fuel injectors need 10 micron filters.
So i guess Andre my injectors will block up or wear out. One day ill have to deal with that. As long as its not soon, no problem.
Grog, everyone as they wish. But you should now have an idea why some of us "stuff about cleaning that stupid in tank high pressure" :salute:
@VladTepes http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=590.msg43065#msg43065
The links are here
I put in external fuel filter and several came up hope this helps
Another useful thread
http://gsx1400owners.org/forum/index.php?topic=590.msg41028#msg41028
Also picture of the filter mounted :cheers:
Ok well I did the whole shebang today just because I could, took all day :doh: - a story I'll tell later. :whistling:
Anyway herr I am with it reassembled, running and (for the first time ever) the flashing "FI" :furious:
Now what ?
FI what code?
About to go check that. If it comes up as C33 (injector 2), or any injector for that matter, I'll be simultaneously unsurprised and frustrated.
@VladTepes The yellow with red tracer wire of the fuel pump is inter-connected with the yellow/red wires on the injectors. That wire is the power lead to them. Might have damaged/loosened it when working on the pump.
Well I realised that while the LCD showed FI the light was not illiimunated or flashing. So I tried it this arvo and all seems well.
Maybe it just wasn't happy until the car cleaner was totally out of the filter?
Anyway. All good now 👍