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Technically Speaking => General Technical discussion => Topic started by: MrErling on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 04:22 AM

Title: Best start battery
Post by: MrErling on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 04:22 AM
What is the best start battery for the GSX1400?
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: seth on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 04:46 AM
One that's fully charged  :stir:
Nice first post by the way  :frustrated:
The common agreement is the same as standard if your replacing a battery .
:doh:
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 05:18 AM
Quote from: MrErling on Tuesday, 07 May  2019, 04:22 AM
What is the best start battery for the GSX1400?

Yuasa - same as original
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Mrg on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 05:21 AM
Welcome to our 1402 family and ask away we will help  :stir:  :onya:
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Andre on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 05:22 AM
Standard (very good): YUASA YTX14-BS with CCA 200 Amps

Better: YUASA YTX14H-BS with CCA 240 Amps
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: T 24 on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 12:39 PM
Original Yuasa.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 07:24 PM
Yuasa seems to rule, my original lasted 9 yrs. Motobatt next, terrible battery and stuffed at 2 yrs. Yeah, i know, shouldve got another Yuasa. HVT ive had for over 12 months. Never looks like going flat after weeks of no use. Rated at 300 cca, mine tests at over 350. Bike just zooms into life. $150. https://superstart.com.au/hvt-8-ultra-high-performance-agm-motorcycle-battery.html
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: GSXKING on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 07:47 PM
My first Yuasa, from purchase October 2001 lasted 13 years  :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Andre on Tuesday, 07 May 2019, 10:33 PM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 07 May  2019, 07:24 PM
Yuasa seems to rule, my original lasted 9 yrs. Motobatt next, terrible battery and stuffed at 2 yrs. Yeah, i know, shouldve got another Yuasa. HVT ive had for over 12 months. Never looks like going flat after weeks of no use. Rated at 300 cca, mine tests at over 350. Bike just zooms into life. $150. https://superstart.com.au/hvt-8-ultra-high-performance-agm-motorcycle-battery.html

I had looked for HVT but seems not to be available here (right way up).
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 08 May 2019, 03:04 AM
I'm a Yuasa fan as well, (or used to be) Last battery I brought lasted 2½ - 3 years max & it's completely buggered now.  Maybe got a crook one?  :whatever:
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Johno on Wednesday, 15 May 2019, 09:22 PM
I followed grog's recommendation and bought a Super Start AGM. Just happened to be at a Caravan and Camping show and SSB had a trade stand promoting their products. They distribute a wide range of batteries for the auto market. Battery arrived by courier today, so looking forward to fitting the 300 CA battery. I'll post some feedback when I get it installed.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: froudy on Thursday, 16 May 2019, 01:36 AM
How much do batteries cost in Oz @Johno ?
I know that you seem to pay a huge price for consumables in Oz and Nz compared to the UK.

A Yuasa in the UK is about £70 0r 129AUD.
I can get a DID X-Ring chain and JT sprockets kit for £80 (149AUD) here.

I see some scary prices for what you guys are buying "down under" :shocked:
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 16 May 2019, 04:50 PM
In OZ they're all Rich !!
:whistling:
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: KiwiCol on Thursday, 16 May 2019, 05:08 PM
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 16 May  2019, 04:50 PM
In OZ they're all Rich !!
:whistling:
All of Oz (and NZ) are not like Tony Nitrous & Irish.  :stir: :whistling:
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: SheepDog on Thursday, 16 May 2019, 05:45 PM

The old Yuasa battery seems the go. More importantly a good trickle charger to maintain it for as long as possible. I've been using the OptiMATE 4. Attached to the rafter above the bike where the interface lead dangles down to connect to the interface tucked under the seat/side panel area.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGLduJXpkyE

Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: grog on Thursday, 16 May 2019, 07:29 PM
Im a good old Aussie. I sure do have millions, weeds in the garden that is. I agree Yuasa very good. 9 yrs from original. My C Tek is often used. 2 cars/2 bikes. After Yuasa i got Motobatt, not at all good, over $200, not even lasted 2 yrs. Could never get 200cca from it. Original also never over 200cca, quite often reset clock from low volts but always started bike. HVT8, only just a year old, best cca was 365. Hasnt been charged, bike hardly used, rain, just tested at 355. So far a great battery, bike spins over so much faster. Yet to see how long its life. Bike charges at 13.7 all the time, voltmeter on bars. Johno, hope it works good for you also, can only state what i find. Posted by a rich Aussie, i wish.   
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Irish in Oz on Friday, 17 May 2019, 06:18 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Thursday, 16 May  2019, 05:08 PM
Quote from: Speedy1959 on Thursday, 16 May  2019, 04:50 PM
In OZ they're all Rich !!
:whistling:
All of Oz (and NZ) are not like Tony Nitrous & Irish.  :stir: :whistling:

I'm richer here, even though I went from millionaire to almost half a millionaire.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: GSXKING on Friday, 17 May 2019, 08:07 PM
Aussie dollar dropped two cents this week against the US. Trump vs Xi causing us a headache  :stir:
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Johno on Friday, 31 May 2019, 04:32 PM
Quote from: froudy on Thursday, 16 May  2019, 01:36 AM
How much do batteries cost in Oz @Johno ?
I know that you seem to pay a huge price for consumables in Oz and Nz compared to the UK.

A Yuasa in the UK is about £70 0r 129AUD.
I can get a DID X-Ring chain and JT sprockets kit for £80 (149AUD) here.

I see some scary prices for what you guys are buying "down under" :shocked:


Well I bought the battery in April and have just got around to installing it in the 1400.

Long story short I have been working temporarily and have now resumed my retirement. No more getting out of bed in the dark and no more weekend work for the moment.

There was no rush required to replace the old battery as the current Katana brand which was fitted in 2015 was still turning the old girl over OK.

However this battery wasn't originally bought for the GSX but happened to be on the garage shelf when the GSX had a completely dead battery in the garage one day. I hadn't had the GSX for very long and there were no signs it was checking out.

So ever since I have been noting the response at start up and after 4 years and with winter around the corner decided I would replace the battery and not be left stranded somewhere.

I was at a Sydney Caravan and Camping Show and happened across a trade stand for SSB promoting their wares for 4WD and deep cycle units for vans and motor homes. The reps were happy to talk bikes and so I was able to follow up on Grog's recommendation for their 300 CCA unit. After hearing that the cost would be around $150 AUD I was pleased to get it for $118 delivered. Maybe a show special.

The old Katana battery showed 12.55 v when taken out of the bike. The new SSB tested at 13.2v and had been sitting in the garage for over a month since delivery.

I think I got a bargain but I won't Know until it needs replacing.

Here are photos of the old Katana unit and the new SSB.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: grog on Friday, 31 May 2019, 07:04 PM
Johno, mine still working fine but only one year old. Will give it a test tomorrow and post cca.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Johno on Friday, 31 May 2019, 07:55 PM
I don't have the knowledge to test Cold Cranking Amps. I assume you load test. I'm sure grog will explain.
However I did go back and tested the voltage at the battery with the engine running - 14.5v @ 2,000 rpm.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: KiwiCol on Saturday, 01 June 2019, 05:31 AM
You need a special meter to test the residual CCA in a battery.  Grog has one (or 3) for his work. 

I brought the cca meter on his recommendation. I also have a 500amp carbon pile load tester.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: grog on Saturday, 01 June 2019, 06:39 PM
Diavel in shed has a Lithium battery. Only does about 40ks per month, never gets charged as its really hard to get to and plug under seat is Ducati specific. Amazes me that it always cranks perfectly. Cost was over $400 so i guess it would want to be good. Yeah, i guess a charger for it should be purchased.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: SheepDog on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 05:55 PM
Quote from: Johno on Friday, 31 May  2019, 04:32 PM
Quote from: froudy on Thursday, 16 May  2019, 01:36 AM
How much do batteries cost in Oz @Johno ?
I know that you seem to pay a huge price for consumables in Oz and Nz compared to the UK.

A Yuasa in the UK is about £70 0r 129AUD.
I can get a DID X-Ring chain and JT sprockets kit for £80 (149AUD) here.

I see some scary prices for what you guys are buying "down under" :shocked:

............

I was at a Sydney Caravan and Camping Show and happened across a trade stand for SSB promoting their wares for 4WD and deep cycle units for vans and motor homes. The reps were happy to talk bikes and so I was able to follow up on Grog's recommendation for their 300 CCA unit. After hearing that the cost would be around $150 AUD I was pleased to get it for $118 delivered. Maybe a show special.

.............

Just done some quick looking and found reasonable price for the HVT-8 12V VRLA (AGM) Battery 300 CCA. $105 delivered. I think that's sweet.  :onya:

https://www.thebatterystore.com.au/hvt-8-12v-vrla-agm-battery.html
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: grog on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 07:09 PM
Sheepie, good price, good battery so far. I paid $140 and was happy.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: Johno on Thursday, 06 June 2019, 07:20 PM
That's a great price. If these batteries last as long as you would expect on these bikes with little electronics etc to operate then they are a bargain. I got five years out of a Deka AGM battery that was manufactured with Harley's in mind. It was around $130 in 2014. It worked out to be good value. However it was in a 1981 GS1000G. The only electrics it had to operate were the running lights and the starter and ignition system.

Only time will tell in this age where things seem to be manufactured to a price and not necessarily a level of quality or performance.
Title: Re: Best start battery
Post by: MrErling on Friday, 08 November 2019, 04:01 AM
Sorry for late answer.
i purchased a YUASA YTX 14-BS   :smile2:

https://www.yuasabatteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/battery-image_YTX14-BS.png (https://www.yuasabatteries.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/battery-image_YTX14-BS.png)