i renember from the old org that you can make the throttle action more quick action by fitting a yamaha throttle tube
only thing is i can't remember which one
R6 or R1 or what year to use
seth :cheers:
R1 Seth, I think one of the earlier models from memory
cheers
as once everything else is done i want to do this too
:cheers:
I used R1 K7 throttle :onya:
E: You need left grip too. Right grips are not changeble.
cheers buddy
i will fit heated grips back on so they will match :hat:
Im sure you can do this mod with a cable tie -
oh
very very cleaver
thats very triable and soon :cheers:
I did this on my ZX9r took a few miles to get used too - let me know how you get on with the 14 if you wouldnt mind Seth :onya:
will do ill have a go on the red/black one and transfer to the other as i finish building it .
will be great for long distances not having to keep having to turn the throttle twice to sit at 70/80ish mph on german motorways
Quicker wheelies
not on the red /black but in the other one
oh yes :wheelie:
Del, Which model motorcycle is your Yellow part (cable tie) ?
Quote from: Bartosz on Sunday, 19 February 2017, 12:11 AM
Del, Which model motorcycle is your Yellow part (cable tie) ?
Im not sure the photo is from the how too I found - I did the mod on my ZX9r
@Bartosz
I believe that if you have a Power Commander fitted, you don't need to modify the throttle...It can be done with PC throttle pump settings :onya:
For those who have done this, is the R1 throttle tube the only part you need? Dont need the cover/bracket/cables at all?
You can buy the tube new so if that's all you need it's an easy solution.
Having to shift your hand for the throttle twice is one of my biggest complaints about the 14.
R1 and R6 throttle tubes are often used on big Suzuki's.
The R6 one is "quicker" more aggressive than the R1.
I'm not sure which year you need but remember there's a tiny bit of trimming somewhere on some models. It was quite common on B-Kings.
Awesome thanks mate.
@Shifty If you are building that turbo engine, be careful with that quick action throttle.
I would sometimes need a slow action throttle. Or then I'm too old.
Dumb old me, what do i need to order to quicken throttle. Dont like the cable tie idea, could it get jammed. Yamaha part sounds good, which part do i order?
Quote from: grog on Monday, 24 June 2019, 07:09 PM
Dumb old me, what do i need to order to quicken throttle. Dont like the cable tie idea, could it get jammed. Yamaha part sounds good, which part do i order?
As I'm sure you know, you buy the throttle tube. The plastic tube the grip fits onto that turns, that includes the wheel the throttle cable go's around.
I'd need to do a bit of googling as some are more suitable than others.
As I said, some R1 ones get used on B-Kings and are faster.
Some R6 ones as faster (less turn) again.
Not all throttle tubes are suitable though. Research needed.
Quote from: V_i_c_i on Tuesday, 14 February 2017, 07:11 AM
I used R1 K7 throttle :onya:
E: You need left grip too. Right grips are not changeble.
Did you find it made a difference?
Don't expect a reply from Tony Nitrous bud he's flown the coop :confused1: :confused1: :confused1:
I looked at old thread. I used to think i needed?wanted quicker throttle action. After some rides on MT10, same ratio as R1, Its a pain in arse, especially with that powerful motor. Slightest bump, hand movement exaggerated, not a great ride. Stock 14 throttle is better. That mod gone out the window.
I put a domino QA on mine positively love it :onya:
Quote from: ouch on Wednesday, 29 April 2020, 02:46 AM
I put a domino QA on mine positively love it :onya:
What precisely is the advantage gained ? Please explain :whatever:
Burns all your petrol quicker :whistling:
@GSXKING For me I find the where I hold the throttle when sitting at a constant speed especially on motorways ECT I need to move my hand to much as to much travel between acceration and cruising speed.
:cheers:
Quote from: GSXKING on Wednesday, 29 April 2020, 08:28 PM
Quote from: ouch on Wednesday, 29 April 2020, 02:46 AM
I put a domino QA on mine positively love it :onya:
What precisely is the advantage gained ? Please explain :whatever:
It's not always about advantage gained but it does mean if you use full throttle a lot its less strain on your wrist to get there, It like everything bike wise it's a personal thing . If you were say an aggressive rider who likes to open bike up then they have some merit.
Quote from: Rh4000 on Monday, 27 April 2020, 09:51 AM
Quote from: V_i_c_i on Tuesday, 14 February 2017, 07:11 AM
I used R1 K7 throttle :onya:
E: You need left grip too. Right grips are not changeble.
Did you find it made a difference?
Yes, BIG difference. One from best performance mod for me. :8:
Thanks
@ouch for the explanation. I think I'd be in the bushes if I used full throttle too much around here :rofl2: :rofl2:
A little digger :tongue:
Any news or infos about quick action throttle ? I'm wondering from which motorcycle tu put R1 or R6 , and which years... It takes plug&play - remove oryginal GSX1400 and put R1(R6) tube with robber ?
Kozi, i gave up. Couldnt get real answer for what to buy, seems R1 is slightly slower than R6. Couldnt find locally, lots from USA but freight ridiculous.
Lots of talk of this in the past with my old GS500
Motion Pro 01-0094 was the weapon of choice
@1AW022 Plug and play operation :jack: ??!!
Never used it
Its still in the bag
Never know... might try experiment on the GSX
Hi guys,
I think I found some tangible data:
First picture below: top left one is genuine R6 throttle tube, top right genuine R1 one, bottom genuine '14.
Looks like the inner diameter of R6 one is smaller? It is not :-)
"wheel" outside diameters: OEM '14: 37mm, R1: 37mm, R6: 41mm
Indeed, the R6 one is a 'short throw' throttle tube, operating angle goes from ~90deg down to ~60deg.
Easy installation, but you need to readjust the two tensioners next to the throttle tube cover
PN/SKU: 2C0-26240-00-00
Yamaha genuine part, should be available at a local dealer. Also available at WeMoto
PS: I've read that the Motion Pro one is no different than the regular R1 one...
Spongey youre correct. 06 on r6 give 60 degree. 99 to 06 give 72 degree. Stock 14 is 90. 👍
First 'real' road test today with the R6 throttle tube, after a few tiny adjustments.
I mean at the local "reference" track road for the insane morons riders around like me: about 20 km of mountain twisties, 40+ corners of nice tarmac, that you race ride back and forth, that is uphill, then downhill. Lot of us there on sunny days.
Fist conclusion after installing the R6 throttle tube, especially if you have used the '14 with the genuine throttle for the past 14 years/ 120K km or so: be sure you have proper brakes and in good condition :-) You face the next corner much sooner than before :-)
Second conclusion: I'm not completely there yet, but yet it's one step closer to the 'craziness' of my MVAgusta Brutale :-)
Good news
@SpongeBob :worshippy:
I have already bought Yamaha throttle but other number - 5SL2624002 (This is all tube with grip but I will remove grip and put it in to my)
Do the cables fits without problem (regulations ofc is neccesary) ?
Quote from: KoZi on Thursday, 02 September 2021, 12:50 AM
Good news @SpongeBob :worshippy:
I have already bought Yamaha throttle but other number - 5SL2624002 (This is all tube with grip but I will remove grip and put it in to my)
Do the cables fits without problem (regulations ofc is neccesary) ?
I may suggest you get the part with exactly the same SKU as I quoted -- 2C0-26240-00-00 -- (it also comes with a grip on it), or you may end up with the regular-sized throttle tube, something like the one I got in the first place, (the top-right one in the picture I posted earlier). And in that case, you won't gain anything.
Anyway the cables do fit in both cases, and if you fit the short-throw tube, you would have to readjust the two tensioners, close to the throttle tube cover. That would be a good indication that you got the right part, by the way.
Also, keep in mind that as there is much less cable guide grooves on the Yamaha throttle tubes, you need to adjust cable tightness "just right" :-)
Sponge, i agree about Brutale. 5 or 6 yrs ago had 1/2 hour one one. Physically a bit small but the rest, wow. Tested gsx1000 same day. Suzuki was so dissappointing. Like comparing a garden gnome to a roller coaster.
Quote from: grog on Thursday, 02 September 2021, 06:53 PM
Sponge, i agree about Brutale. 5 or 6 yrs ago had 1/2 hour one one. Physically a bit small but the rest, wow. Tested gsx1000 same day. Suzuki was so dissappointing. Like comparing a garden gnome to a roller coaster.
Hey Grog,
Agreed, it's slightly small, actually short, so it requires a bit of 'adaptation' if you are resonnably tall and want to ride "track style". But it feels like it weights about half the weight of the '14 :-)
I too had tested one about 10 years ago and was really, really impressed. Then I tested another one about 3 years ago -- the "low-end" one, the 920, all stock -- and was still impressed. At the same period I tested several other bikes such an all new BMW S1000RR, about 175HP, electronic assistance everywhere, up/down quickshifter and all that jazz, and that was... almost boring. Eventually I came across a 2012 "top end" Brutale, the 1090RR, already fitted a with track ECU and exhaust: "only" 150-ish HP, no assistance whatsoever except Traction Control, stiff and uncomfortable as hell :-) THAT is a bike that you can feel, that is 'alive' and bit wild. A lot of fun to ride.
And this is what I like with the '14, which can be, especially after a few adjustments, a fun bike too with a lot of feedback (sometimes too much :-) And somewhat more comfortable :-))
Quote from: SpongeBob on Thursday, 02 September 2021, 05:50 PM
Quote from: KoZi on Thursday, 02 September 2021, 12:50 AM
Good news @SpongeBob :worshippy:
I have already bought Yamaha throttle but other number - 5SL2624002 (This is all tube with grip but I will remove grip and put it in to my)
Do the cables fits without problem (regulations ofc is neccesary) ?
I may suggest you get the part with exactly the same SKU as I quoted -- 2C0-26240-00-00 -- (it also comes with a grip on it), or you may end up with the regular-sized throttle tube, something like the one I got in the first place, (the top-right one in the picture I posted earlier). And in that case, you won't gain anything.
Anyway the cables do fit in both cases, and if you fit the short-throw tube, you would have to readjust the two tensioners, close to the throttle tube cover. That would be a good indication that you got the right part, by the way.
Also, keep in mind that as there is much less cable guide grooves on the Yamaha throttle tubes, you need to adjust cable tightness "just right" :-)
I will measure and put the part I bought and also write here my observations :) Thanks for all of info :cheers: