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Title: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 12:01 PM
I've been there and it is (was ?) stunningly beautiful.


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Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 03:36 PM
Yeah, been a couple of times, went there for my honeymoon, and went there with my wife and step daughter and rented an apartment.

Interesting place. Love the Eiffel Tower, Mon Martre, Arc de Triomphe, The Louvre, Notre Dam etc etc, but the Catacombs is my favourite, it freaks the Mrs out.

Bugger about Notre Dam though...

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Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 03:45 PM
Have you been down in the Catacombs Vlad ?

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Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 04:14 PM
I might not be as 'cultured' as some people, but to me, what's in those pics I find totally abhorrent.

Not you Tony, what's in those pics.
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 04:30 PM
When they "re-did" Paris they quarried huge amounts of stone from under it, the reason much of Paris has a similar style and look. As Paris expanded they got to the cemetery's / graveyards around the outside. Someone had the bright idea of digging up millions ( 6 million?) of the dead and putting them back in the now huge quarry's below.   Many years later it's a tourist attraction.

http://catacombes.paris.fr/en

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catacombs_of_Paris

Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Mrg on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 04:41 PM
It is sad to see history go like that but they will have enough money to re build and the very brave fireman crews that saved the whole complex  were out standing as well as the people that saved the works of art
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 06:43 PM
Quote from: Mrg on Wednesday, 17 April  2019, 04:41 PM
It is sad to see history go like that but they will have enough money to re build and the very brave fireman crews that saved the whole complex  were out standing as well as the people that saved the works of art

"At the website GoFundMe, more than 50 campaigns related to the cathedral fire had been launched globally on Monday, John Coventry, a spokesman for Go Fund Me, said.

Meanwhile, the family investment firm of French luxury goods magnate Francois-Henri Pinault will contribute 100 million euros ($A158 million) towards the rebuilding of the cathedral, news agency AFP has reported"
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Mick_J on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 06:49 PM
It took 200 hundred years to build, I cant see them sorting that lot out in 5 years.
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 06:51 PM
Chinese would have it done in 12 months  :whistling: :stir:
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 07:29 PM
Quote from: mjgt on Wednesday, 17 April  2019, 06:49 PM
It took 200 hundred years to build, I cant see them sorting that lot out in 5 years.

I'd be quite surprised if it wasn't closer to 10.

It's never going to be a rush job to fix.
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 17 April 2019, 08:21 PM
In NZ it would take 5 years to get Resource Consent before you could even touch whats left.

Col the Chinese would get a bulldozer there clear the site and 3D Print a new one.......by Xmas  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 24 April 2019, 09:50 AM
Just look at the pace of the Sagrada Familia building works in Barcelona. It's impressive but even so things take time.
5 years? Nah.
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: GSXKING on Wednesday, 24 April 2019, 07:49 PM
Seriously  :confused1: just raze it and start again, we won't have another 200 years to waste repairing it. You know with the onset of climate change and all  :boogie: :boogie:
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 29 April 2019, 10:02 AM
I dunno, maybe the lead roof would have come in handy with the increased radiation everywhere...
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Proteous on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 02:20 AM
Its is a sad thing BUT and its a flipping huge but... I think its disgusting how so many companies have offered money and such to help the rebuild.. Whats fecking disgusting is none of these companies have ever offered any money towards things THAT ACTUALLY matter like deforestation, or the plastics crisis in our oceans or global warming research.. 100 million towards solving some of the more important global issues would be money better spent. Not some old building that 90% of the world couldnt give a shit about.
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Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Proteous on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 02:22 AM
Hmmmm
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Notty on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 02:38 AM
 they don't seem to worry about what caused the fire -being serious is it only me that thinks it is very strange ??
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Rynglieder on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 03:03 AM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 17 April  2019, 04:14 PM
I might not be as 'cultured' as some people, but to me, what's in those pics I find totally abhorrent.

Not you Tony, what's in those pics.

Col,

Just for a bit of context, it was often the case that some religious people desparately wanted to be interred in sacred sites but there was simply not enough ground for them to be buried in. The church therefore created ossiaruies (basically bone stores) so that peoples wishes could be accommodated.

If you find it macabre, fair enough - but hopefully it will give you some comfort to know this sort of thing is not done with ill-intent and with the wish of the dead.

When I took the GSX to Budapest a few years ago I stopped off at the Sedlec Ossuary; the nearby church had had soil from the holy land or some other such thing brought to its grounds and therfore became the interment place of choice for many people who could not be accommodated. At this site the bones were arranged decoratively as well as being stacked in alcoves:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rynglieder/18952086706/in/datetaken/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rynglieder/18952086706/in/datetaken/)

Each to their own!

Pete.
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 04:23 AM
Yes, agreed Pete, each to their own.  :onya:
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 10:39 AM
@Notty  :coffeescreen:  :happy1:  :onya:  :clapping:
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 10:57 AM
@KiwiCol  YOU THINK THAT'S FREAKY ?! I SAW THIS IN PORTUGAL..

https://www.albomadventures.com/chapel-of-bones/



Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 02:27 PM
It's like anything, if you expose yourself to it enough, you get desensitised. (and arrested if caught!) :happy1:

Seriously though, I wouldn't cross the street to see anything like that.
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: Notty on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 05:24 PM
Police have a few witnesses  :)
Title: Re: Notre Dame... very sad
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 30 April 2019, 07:09 PM
Agree Col, very funny Notty.