I logged in to the forum tonight expecting to see a thread about this heavily laced with the usual Brussels Bureaucrats Bandwagon.
I'd be interested to see some proper facts about this before everyone gets too indignant. I bought a Jaguar XE last year, it already has speed limit sign recognition and a limiter – this only works though if I press a button to make it active. I also have seat belts which will only work if I buckle in and I believe it has air bags – but I never use them. So, are we talking about a selectable safety option or an actual governor as already fitted to HGVs?
It is a stated fact that this is going to apply in the UK regardless of our membership of the EU. Despite what may have been promised about Brexit in 2016 our government will almost certainly always mirror EU directives to ease trade. Even if the UK government don't adopt these standards the European car manufacturers will sell cars into the UK built to EU specifications, the will be no special "Dangerous Edition" built for us.
To my regret it looks like we will soon believing the EU and this means there is nothing we can do about this, we will just have to accept the decisions of our bigger neighbour who have the market power.
If we were somehow to remain as members of the EU we would at least have the option of contacting our MEP and if objections are strong enough they would be persuaded to stop the directive becoming law. Sadly we are probably leaving and losing our rights and access to those who make the laws which will affect us even if some people think we can walk away "no deal".
Back to limiting vehicle speeds.... It has some dangers of its own. I can imagine a driver on a 60 mph road following someone doing 55mph and in frustration going for an overtake that there is not enough power to complete safely. I hope it has been thought through.
Regardless of speed limiters, autonomous vehicles are certainly on the way. These will without a doubt be restricted to the applicable legal limit and will not be permitted to exceed it. It is a fact that in congested areas the speed of the traffic flow is dictated by the slow vehicle at the front of the queue. OK, it may be doing 30 in a 30 but in the real world people probably drive that road at 35. This is what is going to slow traffic down around our towns regardless of any devices fitted to new cars.
Still, it can't be retrospective, so enjoy your GSX1400 and the Freedom Of Movement it gives you whilst you can.
Pete.
Some news sites today are reporting that the feature will be fitted, but the driver can override it by pressing on the accelerator. So if that's true it sounds like a more intelligent cruise control.
A guy at work today wondered if we will see a spate of vigilantes erecting fake speed limit signs in their areas, on the grounds that the computer vision system in the car won't be able to distinguish between fake and real signs. Bingo, instant traffic calming outside your house. It's an interesting thought.
I agree that autonomous self driving vehicles will arrive one day, but it's a very hard thing to do successfully with current technology. I think there has been a lot of hype and bullshit about this, so don't expect them any time soon. It would actually be a lot easier to automate mass transport like planes and trains, but there are a lot of social and political obstacles to this.
Great idea Fishy..... Making a 140kph sign for the local retirement village as we speak.....
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I read it can be switched off or if a driver presses down on the throttle ( accelerator in tin cages ) it is also overridden ? so what's the f****ing point? only 25% of deaths etc on the road are down to speeding :bugga: I need to emigrate :)
Come on over Notty, nice little place down here, or if you prefer, Aussie is a nice BIG place. :onya:
Quote from: Notty on Thursday, 28 March 2019, 08:00 AM
I read it can be switched off or if a driver presses down on the throttle ( accelerator in tin cages ) it is also overridden ? so what's the f****ing point? only 25% of deaths etc on the road are down to speeding :bugga: I need to emigrate :)
The design I was reading on did allow for acceleration above the limit, but only for a short period of time. Enough to get out of danger but not to hold an illegal speed for any time, and it wouldn't keep repeating it.
I wouldn't be surprised to see an attempt to bring it in, but like electric vehicles it's going to have limitations in Australia that it will struggle with.
Quote from: Notty on Thursday, 28 March 2019, 08:00 AM
I need to emigrate :)
What! ... and never see a frost again, and never have an annual MOT, and have cheaper fuel, and get basic insurance included in your road tax, so it's legal to drive / ride anything that's taxed you have a licence for, and get much cheaper road tax on single seat bikes, and get a day off work for your Queens birthday, why would you ever want to do that ?
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I think I'll stick to my old car thanks, it's already limited to 155mph.
Quote from: Hooli on Friday, 29 March 2019, 05:57 PM
I think I'll stick to my old car thanks, it's already limited to 155mph.
Yeah, my B-King had a 155mph limiter and my Busa's was 186 mph I think?
Easily fixed. ..... :whistling:
My Defender is speed limited
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