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Technically Speaking => Accessories & Tools => Topic started by: grog on Tuesday, 22 January 2019, 07:32 PM

Title: Better Than Nothing
Post by: grog on Tuesday, 22 January 2019, 07:32 PM
Maybe good for parking at pub or cafe. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Grip-Brake-Lever-Handlebar-Anti-Theft-Security-Disc-Lock/162672110051?hash=item25e00369e3:m:mOF0nvhKNMRSVnh5EgGJ3lg:rk:9:pf:0
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: seth on Tuesday, 22 January 2019, 09:21 PM
I'd say These are worse than nothing it takes about 2seconds to get around having this on your bike as a security device.  :frustrated: :thumbs_down:
Waste of money .
If you need to go minimal then a metal disclock is the least you could do.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 03:23 AM
Cut the hose.
Crack open a banjo bolt.
Snap the lever.
Remove the pivot pin.
Etc etc.

Bike can still be ridden away or if not, then easily pushed or loaded into a van.

They are cheap and won't do any harm other than making think they have extra security when 99% of bike thieves wouldn't be bothered by it.
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Sweaty on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 07:17 AM
He was only suggesting it as a deterrent outside a cafe/pub when you stop, not an overnight security option.
(I still wouldn't bother with one though)

I use a metal disc lock at home and when on trips etc, and always put it on the rear disc. It's a lot harder to lift the rear up and try to wheel it away on the front wheel  ;) but see a lot of people leave bikes overnight with it on the front wheel. Not hard for 2 guys to wheel that away.
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 08:09 AM
Just as a side note
A mate is getting a write off gsx1400 rebuilt and 3 fairly strong blokes couldn't lift it up a flight of steps and round a house so it could get a new frame made.
When we stripped it down to and engine frame and loom it still weighed a bloody ton we managed to get it where it was going but a struggle for the same 3 blokes.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 08:24 AM
I use metal disc lock on rear wheel. I know it wont stop it getting stolen if they really want it. But at least l can tell the insurance company it had one on. I dont use the steering lock. Guess l should but its a pain.
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Andre on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 08:52 AM
Disc lock with alarm on rear and front here. Heavy chain in reserve if I ever go out of hearing distance.
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 09:33 AM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 23 January  2019, 08:24 AM
I use metal disc lock on rear wheel. I know it wont stop it getting stolen if they really want it. But at least l can tell the insurance company it had one on. I dont use the steering lock. Guess l should but its a pain.

How on earth is a disc lock more convenient/easier than using the steering lock?

In any event, 1400's must be much more desirable to steal in Europe  and NZ as compared with here
I only ever use the steering lock. So far so good... :) 

('touch wood' ... Looks for @seth 's head.  :whistling: )
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 09:38 AM
@VladTepes cheers buddy
:brainfart: :nyahnyah:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 10:16 AM
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 23 January  2019, 09:33 AM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 23 January  2019, 08:24 AM
I use metal disc lock on rear wheel. I know it wont stop it getting stolen if they really want it. But at least l can tell the insurance company it had one on. I dont use the steering lock. Guess l should but its a pain.

How on earth is a disc lock more convenient/easier than using the steering lock?

In any event, 1400's must be much more desirable to steal in Europe  and NZ as compared with here
I only ever use the steering lock. So far so good... :) 


('touch wood' ... Looks for @seth 's head.  :whistling: )





Might be my ignition switch is a bit sticky, hard to get key out.
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 10:43 AM
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 23 January  2019, 09:33 AM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 23 January  2019, 08:24 AM
I use metal disc lock on rear wheel. I know it wont stop it getting stolen if they really want it. But at least l can tell the insurance company it had one on. I dont use the steering lock. Guess l should but its a pain.

How on earth is a disc lock more convenient/easier than using the steering lock?

In any event, 1400's must be much more desirable to steal in Europe  and NZ as compared with here
I only ever use the steering lock. So far so good... :) 

('touch wood' ... Looks for @seth 's head.  :whistling: )

Thats cos you lot down under have mainly got the slow Black versions, those with the desireable B&W versions have to take extra precautionary measures  :stir:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 12:09 PM
I've never locked mine anywhere, even overnight when traveling, n the poms thought they exported all the crims down under!   

Smaller population & rural towns, not going to be the same anti social behavior as ya get in huge cities, guess that's another plus for us.
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Sweaty on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 12:11 PM
Spot on Dave.I own the desirable K6 B&W, hence the steering & disc lock when I'm away  :grin:
The Black owners even leave the keys in down here  :stir: :happy1:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 12:13 PM
That's cos we're so trusting in our fellow citizens  . . .    yeah right!      I don't go that far, as to leave the keys in it! 
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 04:03 PM
I once lived in an area that was quite bad for bike theft.
I had family and a Mate in the Police, and friends and a relative in a back patch bike club. I saw both sides of it.


4 big guys with 2 short poles put through the bike can easily pick it up and post it into a van. Even a 14.

Steering locks will annoy a thief but aren't a real deterrent. A few hard boots to the handle bars with a big size 10 boot will normaly break them.

Alarms are nice. But old refrigerated trucks that used to deliver meat and cold goods are just about sound proof once the doors are clamped shut.

A refrigerated truck with a powerful winch will rip you bike up a ramp and into the back in seconds, steering locks, disc locks etc do nothing, a winch that can pull cars would hardly notice dragging a disc locked bike. In a few seconds of pulling up, your bike will be in the back and the doors closed.

There's a way around everything, dogs, CCTV etc etc.  Any bike can be stolen, you just don't need to be an easy target, and don't get complacent because you think your security is better than it is.
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 04:15 PM
Quote from: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 23 January  2019, 12:09 PM
I've never locked mine anywhere, even overnight when traveling, n the poms thought they exported all the crims down under!   

Smaller population & rural towns, not going to be the same anti social behavior as ya get in huge cities, guess that's another plus for us.

A heap of us had a night out in a hotel near the middle of Dubbo. Booked out the entire place.   I think we had security guards to watch the bikes all night. Turns out it was the latest place open in Dubbo and got a bit messy.   It was a wild old night! 

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Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 07:22 PM
Im so impressed by getting all these reply from a $20 security device. Was really just a stir up, get this place moving, think it worked so well. Very pleased. Talk on this site is needed, a lot dont bother. My real security, always use steering lock, have 2 Master disc locks, Master 12mm chain which is connected to ground anchor. Across road is a , 4 metres up tree, cctv camera, Its always on, lady across road sells plants/firewood, helps us both, hers is honesty box, picks up number plates. My real deterrent, my Misty dog, Blue Heeler, died a while ago. Nothing was necessary when she was alive. A $20 security thingo, good luck.Stir this place up, its brilliant but posting is its heart.
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: KiwiCol on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 07:32 PM
ya ole stirrer Grog!   Goodness upon you my good fellow!
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 07:35 PM
@grog
Your a very naughty boy
:onya: :salute: :hat:
:doh:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Sweaty on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 07:52 PM
Good one you bastard  :clapping: :rofl2:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: grog on Wednesday, 23 January 2019, 08:48 PM
If superglue works why use a bandaid , just a thought. This morning, gunned the big girl, thought i was in 2nd, was 1st, front wheel sure can rise to the occasion. Made my day. Old dogs n new tricks. I think a few fleas fell off. 😂
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 24 January 2019, 10:01 AM
oh?  Mine doesn't do wheelies......  :grin: :whistling:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: SheepDog on Tuesday, 19 February 2019, 11:58 AM

I don't have a dog .....

but I've got a ninja cat.

Gives the possums a once over when their around.

Might start tying her to the bike. Trouble is I can't take her everywhere. 
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Sweaty on Tuesday, 19 February 2019, 05:41 PM
Quote from: SheepDog on Tuesday, 19 February  2019, 11:58 AM

I don't have a dog .....

but I've got a ninja cat.

Gives the possums a once over when their around.

Might start tying her to the bike. Trouble is I can't take her everywhere.

Drill some holes in your top box SheepDog & take her everywhere  :grin:
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Mrg on Tuesday, 19 February 2019, 05:53 PM
I have to lock by chain and disc  only cos my so called dog is a Labrador doddle she is fearless and very strong 💪 but and I say but if she catches the would be bike scum bags nicking my bike my only hope is she licks them to death sleeps on them to pin the down . And the cat welll just as bad if not worse  so I am pretty fucked  so let's hope the locks do there job  :onya: lol 😂
Title: Re: Better Than Nothing
Post by: Desert Fox on Sunday, 24 February 2019, 04:06 AM
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 22 January  2019, 07:32 PM
Maybe good for parking at pub or cafe. https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Universal-Motorcycle-Grip-Brake-Lever-Handlebar-Anti-Theft-Security-Disc-Lock/162672110051?hash=item25e00369e3:m:mOF0nvhKNMRSVnh5EgGJ3lg:rk:9:pf:0
If you have heated grips and use this it will damage the element as I have found out.
Scot