Well, today I stopped to give way to a bus entering the roadway from the bus stop (legal requirement here, plus I'm nice) and another one tapped me in the arse :rant:
Luckily as far as I can tell it's a scratch on the can, and the topbox now flops around like a dick in a hat.
Weird though as there's no real visible damage to the box on the plate it mounts on...
It's a givi 40 litre topbox. It's similar to this https://www.givi.it/cases/Monolock/E370 maybe it is that.
I'm not sure whether mine is monolock or monokey, though I think it's monolock.
I can't seem to find any definitive comparison pictures...
It's this mounting kit https://shop.sydneycitymotorcycles.com.au/p/8750918/givi-527fz-topcase-monorack-sidearms-to-suit-suzuki-gsx1400-2002-june-2005.html with M5M top plate.
Any ideas as to what could be causing it to be loose, and yet no obvious damage?
Probably stretched the plastic a bit were it mounts i use a peace of thin carpet cut to shape and put it in between the box and mount to take up the slack .
Quote from: VladTepes on Tuesday, 08 January 2019, 12:31 PM
Any ideas as to what could be causing it to be loose, and yet no obvious damage?
A bus hitting it . . . . . . . . . . . .
M5 is monokey,,,,m5m is monolock,,,,,the first one monokey is designed for heavier,faster,use, monolock is for smaller slower bikes,,,like my scooter ,
As Daytona says, if you have the wrong mounting plate, that could be your problem exactly.
I'd also check the lock in the bottom of the box though (that bit on the top plate that the box clips onto), as its possible the lock in the box is foobarred.
Best way to check if its the plate or the box is ask another mate who has a Givi top box if you can borrow his box for 2 minutes - and see if that flops around. If it doesn't then the box plate lock is screwed. If it does then the top plate is screwed ( or if you have a givi side case, try fitting that, as the mount is exactly the same)
This is the only box I have. Mates have other brands.
Maybe I can convince the council bus mob to buy me a new monokey plate and box...
Have any of the rubber grommets gone ?
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This is the only box I have. Mates have other brands.
Maybe I can convince the council bus mob to buy me a new monkey plate and box...
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Do what the insurance companies/Americans do Vlad - bit of whiplash compo claim. I'm told neck pain doesn't come on straightwaway :coffeescreen:
(Not being serious by the way before I get a reputation as an ambulance chaser)
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 09 January 2019, 05:14 AM
Have any of the rubber grommets gone ?
There are supposed to be grommets? Where?
So yeah, probably.
Quote from: gsxbarmy on Tuesday, 08 January 2019, 07:33 PM
As Daytona says, if you have the wrong mounting plate, that could be your problem exactly.
Perhaps it is the M5m then I was just going by some second-rate pictures.
The 4 rubber grommets on my Givi monokey are installed on the mounting plate. One at each corner.
Bruce
Hmm I wonder if I can get those anywhere.
Clark rubber do grommets and stuff. Maybe good for a look
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 09 January 2019, 02:52 PM
Hmm I wonder if I can get those anywhere.
These are what you need Mike, 4 rubbers, one for each corner. Available from a stockist in Sydney. The part number is Givi Z126 if you want to search elsewhere.
https://shop.sydneycitymotorcycles.com.au/Listing/search?keywords=Z126&searchType=2&sortItem=7&sortDirection=0
@VladTepes
Well, I'm dissapointed you have let opportunity slip by in concern for a top box.
If you are ever hit by public transport, fall down and scream "Oh my back, my back", then in 6 months you have a brand new everyday bike and you can remove the luggage from the 1400 restoring it to its true glory.
My grommets have worn down quite a bit so it wobbles. Until l replace them.
Have put a velcro strap around it to keep it tight. Looks average but works well.
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 09 January 2019, 07:27 PM
My grommets have worn down quite a bit so it wobbles. Untill l replace them.
Have put a velcro strap around it to keep it tight. Looks average but works well.
Things do wear out as we get older -Does mrs Col mind them wobbling? :)
Quote from: Notty on Wednesday, 09 January 2019, 07:32 PM
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Wednesday, 09 January 2019, 07:27 PM
My grommets have worn down quite a bit so it wobbles. Untill l replace them.
Have put a velcro strap around it to keep it tight. Looks average but works well.
Things do wear out as we get older -Does mrs Col mind them wobbling? :)
It's only the wobbling that keeps her awake :whistling: :mwink:
Some people use a ring but velvcro is far more adjustable.
:facepalm:
UPDATE: So yesterday I rang the council, who flicked the problem to Translink who in turn told me I had to contact the Council insurance mob (Jardine Lloyd Thompson). I did that and as instructed followed up with an email stating all the details/circumstances etc. In that email I asked them to confirm receipt and to let me know when I can expect an outcome. I haven't heard back, and haven't got a read receipt on the email either.
Today I spoke to Translink again, and long story short, they are stating its nothing to do with them and that I can only deal with JLT regarding it. Any complaints regarding the process, they say, have to be directed to JLT, as Translink don't deal with it / can't or won't respond to me as they don't get info from JLT, supposedly. Instead they suggested that if I'm not receiving any response to my emails to JLT, that I send JLT another email asking them to respond to my emails. Seriously, genius. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
This is VERY frustrating. VERY VERY VERY.
:furious:
VERY.
You're too straight Mike, walk with a 'mince', bung on some lippy & mascara & eye shadow & bowl on up to JLT HQ, then you'll get an outcome. Probably give ya a new H2 as compensation . . .
I'd rather not....
Take the issue to the rozzers.....you got hit from behind.
Vlad, you were hit from behind. They lose because thats the law. Pursue it mate.
It's how local goverments and public transport work Mike, run you ragged on the basis that you will give up and then they don't have to pay. Very frustrating but stick with it.
Vlad did you not look before reversing ??
reversing?
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Thursday, 10 January 2019, 05:00 PM
Take the issue to the rozzers.....you got hit from behind.
ha ha I reported on 'policelink' They said they wouldn't take the report as I didn't have the details of the other driver. They said I have to go to cop shop.
So I did that on my way home. They said they only get involved if there's injury where someone transported to hospital and/or over $7K in damage.
Shits me.
ha ha I reported on 'policelink' They said they wouldn't take the report as I didn't have the details of the other driver.
Did you get the license plate or bus #?. You could contact the bus company & get his details, even if you didn't, they would know who was driving with the time/day/location details you could give them.
Brisbane City Council - they won't hand out any info re the driver etc. Just referred me to translink who referred me to the insurance mob.
Not sure how Aussie insurance works, but in the UK all you need to do is report it to your insurance company and (if you have a comprehensive policy) they do all the legwork for you.
You only need to provide the reg number of the vehicle that hit you, fill in some details regarding what happened and they do the rest.
The thing about the police not needing to be involved unless there was an injury, that's the same here too.
Yeah but going through my insurance the excess may well be more than the damage. And if they can't ID the driver then maybe I'll be liable for the excess.
Sorry to even mention this but......be careful when talking to insurance company as they may log an accident on your file even though you didnt claim. Then you have to tell them when you renew your policy or in the event of a claim you may be declined because you didnt disclose the accident.
Notice how they record your conversation with them for "quality and training purposes"
update - so I just got an email from the insurance company and they want me to obtain two quotes on an "without prejudice" BASIS.
WTF does that mean?
I think it means they want you to run around the bike shops begging for a free quote so they can pick the cheapest, which I've found in Melbourne to be almost impossible. :frustrated:
No one wants to invest their time and effort into a quote when there's no guarantee they'll get the work - my experience anyway. :doh:
Whether that has anything at all to do with the Peter Stevens monopoly in Victoria or not I can't say... :whatever:
"Without prejudice" means that they have have not apportioned blame and nor have they accepted to pay your claim.
Quote from: Kiwifruit on Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 10:43 AM
Sorry to even mention this but......be careful when talking to insurance company as they may log an accident on your file even though you didnt claim. Then you have to tell them when you renew your policy or in the event of a claim you may be declined because you didnt disclose the accident.
Notice how they record your conversation with them for "quality and training purposes"
Sadly that is completely true, but in the past I have found it better to take the small financial loss than to waste my time running round chasing everyone.
I have been in Vlad's position before when someone drove into the back of my car. He didn't want to go through his insurance because he was a young guy and it would put his premium up, so I initially agreed. But then I had to take time off work to take my car in for a quote, then ring up and chase the quote, then argue with the other party because he didn't like the price and wanted me to use his garage, which was on the other side of London, then how am I going to get it there, what am I going to drive while it's being repaired, how do I know he will pay, what if the repairs are sub standard...
In the end I decided life is too short for all that. I know it sucks but I have now accepted that if someone bashes into me I am going to be slightly inconvenienced and out of pocket, but I will let the insurance company do the job I paid them for.
Of course everyone puts a different value on their own time and stress level, I'm just saying what works for me.
Vlad, your excess if like mine is 6 or 7 hundred bucks. Is there that muich damage? If not, just plod on. I just dinged my work ute, a scratch really, 600 excess, repair is 700. ill just pay repair, far easier.
Quote from: grog on Tuesday, 15 January 2019, 07:25 PM
Vlad, your excess if like mine is 6 or 7 hundred bucks. Is there that muich damage? If not, just plod on. I just dinged my work ute, a scratch really, 600 excess, repair is 700. ill just pay repair, far easier.
Again, not sure about Aussie rules but here if the bump is not your fault you don't pay the excess.
But I agree, just fixing it yourself is also a valid option if it's a small dink.
Well today I FINALLY got notification that I'd be paid out for the damage (with no admission of liability from them etc) so signed and returned a heap of forms.
They say it might now take up to 3 more weeks to get the $. ::)
Talk about moving at a glacial pace.
Persistence got there in the end. Good on ya for sticking with it.
Bloody great result Vlad. So pleased for you.