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Technically Speaking => Electrics => Topic started by: Bielie45 on Monday, 26 November 2018, 06:41 PM

Title: Electric Bikes
Post by: Bielie45 on Monday, 26 November 2018, 06:41 PM
I will buy this
https://www.bikesales.com.au/editorial/details/2018-eicma-kymco-unveils-e-bike-concept-115608/
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Bielie45 on Monday, 26 November 2018, 06:46 PM
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCsnK_a3C--xb6PLte2jclFA
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Notty on Monday, 26 November 2018, 06:49 PM
Its still early days - my mate paid £18K for an electric bike (Zero Motorcycles) with a range of 110 miles or 80 if you ride it like you stole it so he could never come out with me, ok it cost him just 10 pence to ride to work and yes it was very rapid but it broke down a dozen times in 12 months ending up with a brand new replacement bike just last week  :bugga:
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: grog on Monday, 26 November 2018, 07:10 PM
amazing acceleration times. Jerez testing new Moto E, electric bikes 4 seconds a lap slower than moto 3. not understanding.
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Monday, 26 November 2018, 07:43 PM
Great for tame commuting.

Great for Moto-X tracks near residential area's.

Great for short sprint / 1 lap racing events.


Still a long way to go to be any use in the real world or even come close to replacing a petrol engined Superbike. I'm yet to see ANY electric bike, even the very expensive ones or race bikes, that can match my time and distance on a Sunday ride.
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Monday, 26 November 2018, 07:45 PM
Quote from: Notty on Monday, 26 November  2018, 06:49 PM
Its still early days - my mate paid £18K for an electric bike (Zero Motorcycles) with a range of 110 miles or 80 if you ride it like you stole it so he could never come out with me, ok it cost him just 10 pence to ride to work and yes it was very rapid but it broke down a dozen times in 12 months ending up with a brand new replacement bike just last week  :bugga:

Yeah, mate has a similar Zero. Cheap to commute to work but he eventually gave up with trying to keep it working and went back to traditional bikes.
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: MarkN on Monday, 26 November 2018, 09:21 PM
Being a, erhum, middle-aged gentleman, I would have to say that unless they can replicate the sound made by a "proper" bike I wouldn't have one even if I could afford those prices. It may be the way things go and the technology is great but they don't do it for me  :whatever:
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: owen426 on Monday, 26 November 2018, 10:01 PM
I have the argument with the old blokes at work all the time, but the sun is setting on the combustion engine. Here in Australia we dont have any local manufacturers anymore so we get what the rest of the world decides to build. Look overseas and congestion charges, emissions, politics, marketing and running costs are causing a big push to electric vehicles.

You don't have to like it but you're gonna have to accept it. Going the the petrol station will be like we used to go to video stores.

Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: KiwiCol on Tuesday, 27 November 2018, 01:46 AM
You might be right Owen, but dunno that it'll happen in our lifetime. Unless there's a new way to store electricity that's safe & cheap, it's not going to progress much further just yet.

We should get a "Mr Fusion" unit that the "Back to the Future" car had, banana skin, aluminium can & something else & we'd be off,  Now that'd be the way to go.
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: Tony Nitrous on Tuesday, 27 November 2018, 03:31 AM
Australia is also going to be one of the worst places to own an electric bike, unless your happy staying close to the suburbs around the coast, and even the coast has some big gaps between the populated areas.

It's a very large country with poor infrastructure. 
Title: Re: Electric Bikes
Post by: VladTepes on Tuesday, 27 November 2018, 10:23 AM
Prediction:

The bulk of motorcycles will still be ICE when the bulk of cars are electric.  The tech just isn't there at the moment on the whole power:weight:range thing.

It will come in due course though.

I think eventually that motorcycles will have replaceable battery packs.  i.e. you go to the servo, drop off your drained battery, plug in the charged one and away you go. 

Would require some industry standardisation (we all know how that went with VHS vs Betamax :lol: ) but I think that's the only way that ebikes will be an attractive option in the long term.