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Title: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 09 February 2017, 12:39 PM
Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?

What advantages, if any, would it offer to an essentially standard bike...

I see this mob sell one...  http://www.ptr.com.au/gsx14/dqspull.html

details: http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/products/QuickShifter/powercommander_quick_shifter.aspx
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: seth on Thursday, 09 February 2017, 05:17 PM
not yet but have one in the garage to fit this year  :cheers:
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: northern on Thursday, 09 February 2017, 05:36 PM
I do.

pure fun and little bit better acceleration  :)
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 09 February 2017, 07:03 PM
Are any other mods needed ( to linkages etc) ?
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: seth on Thursday, 09 February 2017, 07:25 PM
linkage is shorter to make room for the quick shifter unit
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 09 February 2017, 10:10 PM
just a simple cut or new linkage?
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: seth on Friday, 10 February 2017, 01:17 AM
new linkage or cut and thread the old one i can measure the replacement one if you needing the size
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: kja on Friday, 10 February 2017, 05:59 AM
I run a HM shifter on my busa, great but for occasional use only, the gearbox and clutch basket get hammered if you use them all the time.
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: gsxbarmy on Friday, 10 February 2017, 08:18 AM
TonyB used to have one on the 14 he had an accident on, which I think Tallman has now. Tony had the Dynojet one (from memory), which linked up with his PCIII.

You' have to ask TonyB for more details as after that I don't have anymore.
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 10 February 2017, 08:33 AM
Quote from: seth on Friday, 10 February  2017, 01:17 AM
new linkage or cut and thread the old one i can measure the replacement one if you needing the size

That'd be good for forum records / posterity mate. :)
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: seth on Friday, 10 February 2017, 08:56 AM
I'll get to it over the weekend  :cheers:
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: northern on Friday, 10 February 2017, 09:17 AM
Quote from: VladTepes on Thursday, 09 February  2017, 07:03 PM
Are any other mods needed ( to linkages etc) ?
"push type" Dynojet quickshifter for PCV have right hand mail tread and left hand femail tread. Original linkage have right-hand tread on one end and left hand on other. Because of this, original linkage could not be used with this quickshofter.

There is also other quickshifters beside what I have , but I do not know what treads they have. You can use any push-type of them, because they are basically just off>on type switches. The length of new linkage depends of quickshifter dimensions. Connected, they have to be same length as OEM linkage is.
I use staines steel M6 left hand tread rod,which I get on ebay, to substitute OEM linkage.
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Monday, 13 February 2017, 11:20 AM
What revs do you have the quickshifter kick in at?

I gather you can set them so they don't activate under a certain RPM so you aren't constantly kicking up gears in traffic....

Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Wednesday, 19 April 2017, 05:13 PM
@northern @seth

How does the quickshifter tie in with the PC3?  As in by what connections? I can't find any installation manual etc to figure it out.

And is any change to maps required?  I wouldn't have thought so but....
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: gsxbarmy on Wednesday, 19 April 2017, 05:57 PM
Quote from: VladTepes on Wednesday, 19 April  2017, 05:13 PM
@northern @seth

How does the quickshifter tie in with the PC3?  As in by what connections? I can't find any installation manual etc to figure it out.

And is any change to maps required?  I wouldn't have thought so but....

Look on the Powercommander site Mike under Products http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/products/QuickShifter/powercommander_quick_shifter.aspx

@VladTepes
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: seth on Wednesday, 19 April 2017, 11:29 PM
haven't fitted mine yet vlad but it will be via a pcv when it does

baso has a quick shifter on his bike running a pc3
:cheers:
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 20 April 2017, 11:42 AM
That doesn't seem to cover what I'm asking - does it just plug in-line (serial) with the power commander?
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: gsxbarmy on Thursday, 20 April 2017, 03:16 PM
I'm assuming you have a PC III USB Mike? From memory it plugs into that unit and you then download the necessary software (as per my link) and firmware upgrade (if required)

To be totally sure though you may have to email the Power Commander people as I'm not sure any regular contributor on here has one actually fitted
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Thursday, 20 April 2017, 05:00 PM
Yeah I do have a PCIII USB.

It's academic though, An unforseen and adverse change in income has put a line under the discretionary spending....

Bugger.  It's all fine though, It's not as if I can't ride it as is  :)
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: northern on Sunday, 23 April 2017, 07:48 AM
@VladTepes
I have PCV.
I find some picure from internet:
there is small holes left from central cable (first picture). Those are different analog input's, which can be configured from Dynojet software. Connecting shifter cables there, you can choose what type of shifter you use (normally open circuit or normally closed circuit) fuel  cutting time in milliseconds and etc...

Not sure about PC3, but second picture is also from internet... I hope, management software also enable to activate shifter.
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: bigian14 on Sunday, 23 April 2017, 11:10 PM
Recently fitted a Dynojet quickshifter to mine, it plugs straight in to the auxilliary port on the PC3 but you have to "enable" the quick shift feature, (PCV enables automatically).
To do this you need to download the PC3 Control Centre Software and the Shift Kill Software for PC3USB from here http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/downloads/powercommander_downloads.aspx?ProdType=PCIIIUSB (http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/downloads/powercommander_downloads.aspx?ProdType=PCIIIUSB) ideally to a laptop, (must be windows operating system). Once quick shifter is fitted and connected connect laptop via usb cable to the mini usb socket on the PC3 and run the Shift Kill software, (IMPORTANT: ENGINE NEEDS TO BE RUNNING) you will see a graphic of a PC3, simply click where it says "Enable" and all is done.
Quickshifters for the GSX are preset to cut the ignition for 65 milli-seconds and only to "enable" above 4000rpm,  if you want to alter these settings you need to run the control centre software which will allow you to change the "kill" time and the engine speed at which the quick shift becomes active.
With regards length of gear linkage, you just need to tell them bike model and/or length of current gear linkage and they will send the correct part/parts to fit, to fine tune the length, the linkage shafts are pre-marked at 8mm intervals to aid cutting.  I have rearsets on mine so needed a fairly long linkage which wasn't a problem.
I also noticed that the quickshifter performs best when engine is up to temperature, don't expect slick gear changes when the engine/gearbox is cold, and contrary to what a lot of people think, you are not onliged to "quickshift" all the time, it quite happily accomodates "normal" gear changes with or without clutch.
:cruisin:
Title: Re: Anyone have a quick-shifter on their 14 ?
Post by: VladTepes on Friday, 28 April 2017, 11:00 AM
Thanks Ian.