Hi folks,
As some of you know I have been looking for a tank for my bike but not having much luck apart from going new, on top of that I have just acquired a chassis thatI want to build a custom bike with and put a Gsx 14 motor into it. This means I need a tank, engine, throttle bodies, injectors etc and complete electrics.
Thinking hard on all of this it has put it into my head that the best option for me really is to buy a complete bike and break it to get the parts I want and sell the rest. Before I dig deeper into this:
Could anyone who knows values of the parts from these bikes on the used market give me a help and guideline as to what sells from these bikes when broken up and what the values of the parts are?
(absolutely everything you can think of please because if I don't buy a bike then I have to buy an engine and all the ancillaries and that may not be a wise cost effective option)
Thanks!! :-)
I've been looking at breaking a 14 for a while.
I've bid on a couple at the auctions and watched a few on EBay etc.
None were cheap enough for my taste. Often the best deals go through big breakers who deal with insurance company's and take bikes in large numbers.
I'll keep looking. I have several bikes, both 14's and others, on my watch list.
I bought a tank for €400
A complete engine, fuel rail incl injectors loom and most the electrics for €500
Fuel pump and new o-rings for €150.
All this within a time span of max 2 years ago.
Think you need about £1000 now for the big parts...then add a additional £600 for new battery, tires, oil, filters, cleaning injectors and an occasional powder coat.
Rims, brakes, disc, front end and back end already sourced? No? Add another £1000
Ok cool Blubber that's a help, So are you saying?
£1K complete engine, throttlebodies, injectors etc and all of the electrics?
£1K for the complete front and rear end incl wheels
Tank anywhere from £200 to £400 depending on the day
That leaves: Frame, saddle, lights, seat unit plastic, footrests, grabrail, shocks (if good ones), undertray if fitted - trying to figure out what these are worth approx
I would say as long as all the parts are useable you will get your money back, shame to break up a working bike though.
I'm trying to figure out what's the top price to pay for a bike to break, How much should be my cut off point for a 2002 model (need a 2002 tank) ??
Quote from: diebythereaper on Saturday, 01 September 2018, 05:17 AM
I'm trying to figure out what's the top price to pay for a bike to break, How much should be my cut off point for a 2002 model (need a 2002 tank) ??
You can't really put a price on a bike until you see it.
A great bike with a damaged tank or clocks is worth grabbing if it's cheap enough, but worth less than a mint one.
Even your ideal 2002 undamaged model price would change for me depending on if it had 20,000K's or 200,000k's and if it had been loved or parked up in the rain and dirt.
I'd be more judging an individual bike and pricing it low against similar bikes on the market.
I don't value most useless tat and bling, but I'd certainly value a bike with a full system (Akro / Yoshi) and a PC3 or 5 higher than a stock bike.
Hard to value a bike without its age, condition, mileage, mods etc (and how far away you need to transport it)
Quote from: diebythereaper on Saturday, 01 September 2018, 02:54 AM
Ok cool Blubber that's a help, So are you saying?
£1K complete engine, throttlebodies, injectors etc and all of the electrics?
£1K for the complete front and rear end incl wheels
Tank anywhere from £200 to £400 depending on the day
That leaves: Frame, saddle, lights, seat unit plastic, footrests, grabrail, shocks (if good ones), undertray if fitted - trying to figure out what these are worth approx
Depends where you set your system boundaries regarding electrics and rear end. Things will shift a bit.
But in the greater sum of all goods you are right. Not a garantee but a ball park
Mind you...breaking up a bike will take up your time and storage. Parts will be left over. Very little profits are gained.
I have sold bikes in parts (over 2 years) and ended up with max 100 euro extra versus bids I got for the complete package. Several times . (I aint the most slick seller on earth)
I got my shocks of here for £40
Rear panel £60 - 100
Seat £100
I work on the value of the parts I want to keep, plus the value of the parts I manage to sell. This needs to equal the purchase price. Anything after that is a bonus.
I actually want to do more of this which is one more reason to move house.
As blubber rightly mentioned, it makes a big difference if you have spare space and don't need a quick return on your money. This is what I'm aiming at.
All good points, I just need to know what stuff goes for so I can do the numbers and know what to pay.
I have the space - the time and effort and cash tied up is the hardship part and I'm certainly not considering doing this to make a profit - I just want a bike with good service history and ok mileage (12K preferably) and then I will know I have a good engine for life and have confidence in ti, complete unbutchered or damaged electrics and the tank that I need and they will be standing me reasonable money.
Have also thought about a wreck as a spare. Did with another bike, used the motor , the rest basically sat around until i sold it. Never used much else. Few nuts n bolts, throttle cables. Never seem to replace much on 14 so ive sort of let that idea slip. Still think would be good idea.
It may sound obvious but to me higher ticket items are clocks and tanks, then engine side cases. These are the first thing to go in an accident and not cheap or easily replaced.
If you are keeping these items then straight away you have some good bits, but remember you also don't have the best bits to sell.
Although you can sell any part of a 14 the demand for 10 year old suspension, 6 pot calipers, stock handle bars etc is there, but isn't going to be like tanks and clocks. You will find many folk chasing 14's in wreckers yards are often after the same small list of parts.
agree Tony. most high list items are already damaged. had a quick look today, cant find any 14 on pickles etc. that is damaged sales places.
Quote from: diebythereaper on Saturday, 01 September 2018, 07:29 AM
I just want a bike with good service history and ok mileage (12K preferably) and then I will know I have a good engine for life and have confidence in it.
You do know these bikes don't wear out don't ya? I've got 10 times that mileage on mine & it runs like new, doesn't use oil etc etc
Well currently it doesn't due to a burnt out stator but you get what I mean.
Is £3K the max in your opinion? or could I push it to £3.5K ?